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Old 01-05-2012, 03:04   #241
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That's what I said. You don't really care about the city and how it's run, you're idealogically blinded. You know all the things they're planning to do if left in control, and you're still going to vote for them.
That is the reason for elections. They give all people the chance to vote the way they want to, not the way you want them to. People have a right to vote how they want to, I suspect many may not care for the way you may choose to vote and that is also their right. Since you are so anti labour I will now vote for them, (no idea what their policies are but so what, councils never carry out their pre-election promises anyway).
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Oh god do we,as the public, have to vote on wether or not to have an elected mayor??? my head hurts
If the main parties want you to vote "No" to an elected Mayor, it's a pretty good indicator that you should vote "YES" to an elected Mayor.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:37   #243
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I know a good joke ... Lib Dems. Never to be taken seriously by anyone ever again.

If they are too stupid to see that a U turn from, vote from us Students will pay no fees - to £9K fees would not be damaging to anyone connected to their party.

Then they have lost the right for me to even consider putting my X on any voting slip for anyone affliated with lib dems
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:39   #244
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A good education should give you the skills to be able to understand that sometimes you can't have all the things you want to have.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:28   #245
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A good education should give you the skills to be able to understand that sometimes you can't have all the things you want to have.
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:54   #246
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It's nearly that time folks.....who else wants Blunkett for Mayor?
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:19   #247
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That is the reason for elections. They give all people the chance to vote the way they want to, not the way you want them to. People have a right to vote how they want to, I suspect many may not care for the way you may choose to vote and that is also their right. Since you are so anti labour I will now vote for them, (no idea what their policies are but so what, councils never carry out their pre-election promises anyway).
That is your right of course, but you might at least to take a look at their manifesto for the city before you decide that it's what you want. Just voting blind like that because you don't like my stance doesn't seem a well considered course of action?
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:55   #248
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Not sure what you mean? You can see who's up for election by looking on the council website. There should be a list for each ward.
There's a ward by ward list here: https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/dms/scc...0of%20Poll.doc

I have a summary list of the whole city here: http://mdfs.net/Docs/Sheffield/Election/2012/
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:12   #249
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If the main parties want you to vote "No" to an elected Mayor, it's a pretty good indicator that you should vote "YES" to an elected Mayor.
That's my kind of logic
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:13   #250
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It's nearly that time folks.....who else wants Blunkett for Mayor?
Mrs Blunkett ?
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:17   #251
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That is your right of course, but you might at least to take a look at their manifesto for the city before you decide that it's what you want. Just voting blind like that because you don't like my stance doesn't seem a well considered course of action?
My reason is as follows:
I find your decisions and attitude to others bizzare. It therefore follows to me that if you do not wish people to vote for a party then they must be by comparison sensible. Therefore that is where my vote will go.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:18   #252
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Well we have only had one party even bother to send us a leaflet, and that was the Labour party, does that mean the other parties think its a done deal round our way and have put there money into places they think the votes going to be closer, or do they think they have it in the bag and thought they would save a bit of money?

Either way I think its a bit of an insult for the electorate and democracy if they are can't even try and get your vote
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:33   #253
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Unlike others on this thread, up in Crookes, we received quite a few election leaflets and much of the campaigning has been pretty negative. But I've found the Lib Dem material pretty awful. We've received three leaflets from them - one was a standard, yellow themed, Lib Dem logo at the top leaflet. But I thought the other two were really misleading. One was the "Sheffield Courier", apparently a newspaper. It wasn't obviously a Lib Dem publication, but carried lots of good news stories about the Lib Dems and lots of bad news about Labour. It carried the required imprint on the back page identifying it as Lib Dem, but I think there's something quite dubious about a newspaper format that doesn't carry clear party branding. We've also received an A4 black and white leaflet "Betrayal". Again, it's not clearly branded and devotes one side to Labour's "betrayal" and half the other side to a positive Lib Dem message. The other half of the page is blank apart from "Betrayal" in large letters (upper case are approx 4cm). It carries the required imprint again but it's on the crease (the page is folded in half) and is actually too small to measure - I think the capital letters are less than 3mm tall. It's really quite difficult to identify these leaflets as official Lib Dem election material. I think if a political party pushes leaflets through my door, they should at least make it easy to see, at a glance, who those leaflets come from rather than relying on the very minimum of legal requirements. No advertiser would be allowed to get away with this.
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Old 01-05-2012, 15:25   #254
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Previously posted as new topic - redirected to this existing thread, so here is my post.

On Sunday morning a black cab pulled up outside my house, the driver posted a letter through my door and then drove off.
The letter was personally addressed to me and was from Iltaf Hussain, the Lib Dem candidate for Nether Edge Ward.
It went on to promote the Green record and values of the Lib Dems and to disparage Labour's record on this issue, in an effort to win my vote for the upcoming elections.
Now forgive my ignorance, but for a black cab to drive to my house only, to deliver this message, is surely hypocrisy beyond belief. As my husband is also on the Electoral Roll, can we expect a similar visit with his letter?? It would be interesting to know what the carbon footprint of this excersise actually was.

Someone commented tongue in cheek that they probably couldn't afford the stamps, however whats wrong with Shanks's pony - delivering for a local candidate in the ward he represents is hardly going to be a marathon...
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Old 01-05-2012, 16:28   #255
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The Tories aren't happy with Lib Dem leafletting either :

Dore Conservation Group have issued a statement.
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Old 01-05-2012, 17:08   #256
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The Tories aren't happy with Lib Dem leafletting either :

Dore Conservation Group have issued a statement.
Is the Dore Conservation Group comprised solely of what you like to call "Tories"?

Or was it a typo and should actually be "Conservative Group"?

I see the pace of the politicking on here is speeding up ... with only two more days to go!
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:41   #257
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It's nearly that time folks.....who else wants Blunkett for Mayor?
Think we've all had enough of silly David for one lifetime!
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Old 03-05-2012, 15:03   #258
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The Lib Dems were quite open that they were happy to be part of Coalition governments with any party and saw the future of politcs as one where parties made compromises with each other to realise both the best outcomes for the country and for what the electorate wanted.

In fact they'd got a track record of ruling in coalitions at local level, Leeds is a good example.

So why on earth do people call them lying and duplicitous?

In my humblest opinion; the electorate of this country is stupid and naive to such an extent that genuinely harms democracy .
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Old 03-05-2012, 15:36   #259
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The Lib Dems were quite open that they were happy to be part of Coalition governments with any party and saw the future of politcs as one where parties made compromises with each other to realise both the best outcomes for the country and for what the electorate wanted.

In fact they'd got a track record of ruling in coalitions at local level, Leeds is a good example.

So why on earth do people call them lying and duplicitous?

In my humblest opinion; the electorate of this country is stupid and naive to such an extent that genuinely harms democracy .
Can I remind you of a quote from Mr Clegg

"The day before I was elected leader, Mr Cameron suggested we join them.

He talked about a “progressive alliance”.

This talk of alliances comes up a lot, doesn’t it?

Everyone wants to be in our gang.

So I want to make something very clear today.

Will I ever join a Conservative government?

No.

Will I ever join a Labour government?

No.

I will never allow the Liberal Democrats to be a mere annex to another party's agenda.

But am I interested in building a new type of government? Yes.

Liverpool 2008: Nick Clegg's Leader's Speech
http://www.libdems.org.uk/speeches_d...der%27s_Speech
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Old 03-05-2012, 16:10   #260
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So he's certainly not keeping his word. How unusual for a politician. [Not]
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