[dbear134]

Ok daughter trying to do medical degree ....Sheffield do a BA ,Lincoln ,Nottingham,edgehill etc do a Bsc is there a better one or doesnt it matter in the long run whats the difference and if there isnt any ..why have 2 ?(Ba/Bsc) any views educated people of sheffield

[Miss_S_83]

Nursing or medical??!

[MrMoran]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...een_bsc_and_ba

[indiechick]

My initial nurse training was BSc, my specialist qualification is BA.
I don't think it makes any difference. When choosing her university I would look more at the quality and variations of the placements, as the placements are the most important aspect

[Miss_S_83]

Originally Posted by dbear134

Ok daughter trying to do medical degree ....Sheffield do a BA ,Lincoln ,Nottingham,edgehill etc do a Bsc is there a better one or doesnt it matter in the long run whats the difference and if there isnt any ..why have 2 ?(Ba/Bsc) any views educated people of sheffield

Don't think it makes any difference whatsoever, both degrees

[dbear134]

Hi Miss S 8 she wants to do a nusing degree and work in A&E for some strange reason

[JFKvsNixon]

What you need to do is look at is the quality of the training at either university, it's this that'll make the difference in your daughters future career.

[Miss_S_83]

Originally Posted by dbear134

Hi Miss S 8 she wants to do a nusing degree and work in A&E for some strange reason

Sorry got confused with first post saying medical but understand now

I am doing nursing (diploma) and would love to work in a&e after a 2 week stint there, really enjoyed it

[dbear134]

is there such athing as top rated universites for medical/nursing degrees .Of the 4 or 5 in our area i would presume sheffiled would be better than nottingham,derby,lincoln in terms of available resources but edgehill for example i believe is rated better on some census ??

[1fish2fish56]

Not sure if you are just using term medical degree loosely as in something in the medical field. A nursing degree is not a medical degree (doctors do medical degrees). If it is specifically nursing you are asking about. There is an age old question in nursing "is nursing an art or a science?" There are even books written on the subject. In theory you would think that a Bsc would lean more towards scientific modules and assessments but I did the BA nursing at Hallam and we did a lot of science. You could try asking each university about their individual modules.
As far as eventually getting a nursing job it will not matter at all whether your daughter has a BA or BSC. But it will matter where she studies in relation to where she wants to work. e.g Sheffield Teaching Hospital operates a clearing system which seems to favour Sheffield nurses so its easier to get a job in Sheffield if you studied in Sheffield. For her application she will need some voluntary work in a hospital. nursing home or other caring experience to show commitment. Hope this helps.

[dbear134]

many thanks for the advise she has done shadowing of nurse practioner,and voluntary work weekly at Alzheimers (not very good at spelling !) home so she hopefully has some insight of what shes getting into ..have you any thoughts on edghill they seem to focused on nursing qualifiactions...her first choice by the way is lincoln as she likes the area and placements are york,scarborough boston etc

[1fish2fish56]

Does she drive? getting to placements can be a nightmare. Hallam uses Barnsley, Doncaster and Bassetlaw. Getting home from a late shift on public transport can be dangerous. So is she doesn't drive I would look at access to placements. There are no allowances made for student safety issues. You just have to get on with it. Sometimes though you can board in hospital accommodation whilst on placement but this can be expensive when you are already paying for digs elsewhere.
Also student nurses work a 52 week year so she will be on campus when most other students are back at at home so check up on safety at these times. Also many universities mix nursing students in with other students. This is fine until you have to be up at 5am for placement and everyone else is still partying at 4am so you haven't had any sleep. I would ask the universities if they accommodate nursing students together.
Nursing students have to work extremely hard fitting all the coursework to attain a degree into a 25 week year because they are on full time placement for 20 - 24 weeks. Usually only six weeks holiday a year which is very different to other degrees. I can't comment on other unis because I went to Hallam but I loved it as a mature student.

[daniel3982]

I'm studying nursing in York which is very highly rated (either #1 or #2 I can't remember) & it is hard work with little time off and sometimes placements far away but it's enjoyable too.

I would say there is absolutely no difference between a BA and a BSC in this case.

Personally I would recommend her to look at the place she would eventually like to live as it's much easier to get jobs in the city you study in as so much of nursing is about making connections and contacts while on placement.

I really don't want to live in York when I graduate so it's gonna be much tougher for me to get a job in Sheffield coming up against people who studied there and had placements where I want to work!

[zippy]

the exact title of a pre-registration degree is irrelevant to a greater or lesser extent,

the first and most important question about any course is - Does it lead the registration ?

the rest is about the individual 'fit' of the course

there are pre-reg Nursing Degrees leading to BA, BSc, BMedsci, and various Flavours of BN /BNurs - but the exact title isn't going to matter one jot to a potential employer - they are interested in whether you have registration and whether you'd fit into the team ....

[zippy]

Originally Posted by 1fish2fish56

Does she drive? getting to placements can be a nightmare. Hallam uses Barnsley, Doncaster and Bassetlaw. Getting home from a late shift on public transport can be dangerous. So is she doesn't drive I would look at access to placements. There are no allowances made for student safety issues. You just have to get on with it. Sometimes though you can board in hospital accommodation whilst on placement but this can be expensive when you are already paying for digs elsewhere.

where ever you go you will find that there will be placements which require travel

travelling expenses / accomodation expenses if you are placed a significant distance from 'home' are covered


your comments about 'no allowances for safety issues' is at best inaccurate and at worset downright libellous - 24/7/365/ working is a reality for anyone working in healthcare

Also student nurses work a 52 week year so she will be on campus when most other students are back at at home so check up on safety at these times.

iirc there's activity 50 weeks of the year - the vast majority of most universities activities have a near complete shut down for 10 days - 2week over Christmas- New year

student Nurses are expected to attend 40 -45 weeks a year whether that's on placement or in university

while many none Health Professional Undergraduate Students only attend University for 30 or so weeks / year the rest of the university works year round

[1fish2fish56]

"your comments about 'no allowances for safety issues' is at best inaccurate and at worset downright libellous - 24/7/365/ working is a reality for anyone working in healthcare" Zippy


Wooooh Hold on a minute I was not intending to libel anyone. I was merely saying that a long journey home from deserted railway platforms to deserted halls of residence at 22.30 or possibly even later is something that any mother would want to consider. But that it is not considered sufficient cause to swap placements.