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Old 04-01-2012, 18:57   #1
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'Blue Labour' creator has criticised Ed Miliband's leadership for having 'no strategy, no narrative and little energy'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-lord-glasman?

Lord Glasman, the man that Miliband appointed to the peerage has made a stinging attack on Miliband's Leadership, but it is also clear that he has equal contempt for the deadwood with which Mr Ed has surrounded himself.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehou...other-ed.thtml

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Old 04-01-2012, 19:09   #2
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I'm not surprised, all I hear when Ed opens his mouth is something about how bad the coilition is doing. He needs to concentrate on furthering his own policies rather than continuously bashing the current government!
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Old 04-01-2012, 19:14   #3
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Lord Glasman makes a very good point.
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Old 04-01-2012, 19:15   #4
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all theLabour front bench were members of the government that brought this country to its knees.

Most of them were aquiesent to an illegal attack on Iraq.

Ed stabbed his brother in the back.

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Old 04-01-2012, 19:21   #5
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all theLabour front bench were members of the government that brought this country to its knees.
the labour government didn't bring this country to it's knees.

the early conservative shadow cabinet were all drawn from ex-government minsiters that's how these things work.

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Old 04-01-2012, 19:28   #6
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the labour government didn't bring this country to it's knees.

the early conservative shadow cabinet were all drawn from ex-government minsiters that's how these things work.



no he didn't



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I think that was Lord Glasman's point. The party leadership are still desperately trying to deny what the population as a whole knows happened.

Quote from Spectator article..

But if you read between the lines of Glasman’s article it is clear that he thinks someone is holding Miliband back and he drops very heavy hints as to who that is. For instance, the second sentence reads as follows: ‘Old faces from the Brown era still dominate the shadow cabinet and they seem stuck in defending Labour's record in all the wrong ways - we didn't spend too much money, we'll cut less fast and less far, but we can't tell you how.’ If that wasn’t enough of a clue, he adds that ‘Endogenous growth, flexible labour-market reform, free movement of labour, the dominance of the City of London — it was all crap, and we need to say so.’ He could only have been clearer if he had said it was all Balls.

And that is from The Spectator. I don't expect the rest of the media to be so kind.

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Old 04-01-2012, 19:44   #7
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Old 04-01-2012, 19:48   #8
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New Labour will be unelectable until they get working class people leading the party putting forward policys that appeal to working class people.
but what policies appeal to working class people?
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Brown, Prescott, Mandelson, Blunkett and Balls and now Millibore. The mind boggles as to who would ever vote them into power.

Old Glasman certainly has an easy target.

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but what policies appeal to working class people?
Is it telling them they could pay off all their debts by using a credit card?
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I hear that Yvette Cooper is being groomed for better things and Hilary Benn could be a contender.
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Old 04-01-2012, 21:47   #12
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Is it telling them they could pay off all their debts by using a credit card?
would that appeal to a working class person?
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would that appeal to a working class person?
It seems to be the illusion that the 2 Eds seem to want to peddle.
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Old 04-01-2012, 23:38   #14
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but what policies appeal to working class people?
Not the tax and spend, mass immigration, financial mismanagement, bank bailout crap that new labour persued thats for sure.
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Old 05-01-2012, 00:41   #15
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Glasman hits the nail on the head. Labour is unelectable, whilst the buffoon Balls is the Shadow Chancellor and Ed Miliband doesnt change tack soon.

Tom Watson & Chuka Ummuna are both worth watching at the moment. They represent their electorate and work hard for them.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:28   #16
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It seems that the Labour Party's year hasn't got off to a good start as Milibands policies are savaged by his own guru..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

Ed Miliband’s leadership was under sustained attack last night after one of his closest allies denounced him for offering ‘no strategy, no narrative and little energy’.

In a highly embarrassing intervention, the Labour leader’s political guru Lord Glasman denounced the party’s economic policies in government as ‘all crap’ and said Labour had shown ‘no signs of winning the economic argument’.

And in a withering assessment of Mr Miliband’s personal qualities, Lord Glasman said he had ‘flickered rather than shone’, ‘nudged not led’ and had ‘not broken through’ with voters during his first full year in charge of the party.

The attack is all the more remarkable because Lord Glasman is a friend of Mr Miliband and was handed his peerage by the Labour leader last year.

The criticism is bound to fuel speculation about Mr Miliband’s prospects of holding on to the leadership.

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:48   #17
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No doubt the Labourites will soon be posting that its all DM lies and Miliband is still a great leader!
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Old 05-01-2012, 13:50   #18
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Glasman hits the nail on the head. Labour is unelectable, whilst the buffoon Balls is the Shadow Chancellor and Ed Miliband doesnt change tack soon.

Tom Watson & Chuka Ummuna are both worth watching at the moment. They represent their electorate and work hard for them.


They have one over riding problem. They are socialists, and it doesnt work.

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Old 05-01-2012, 13:52   #19
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I hear that Yvette Cooper is being groomed for better things and Hilary Benn could be a contender.
Groomed? I fear it would take a brain and personality transplant to make either of those two acceptable. There is a limit to what a wash and brush up can acheive.
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Old 05-01-2012, 14:22   #20
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Its all DM lies and Miliband is still a great leader!
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