The Mcanns got the MET, the Needhams got no-one. Why? - Page 2

hard2miss · 10-09-2011, 18:46

They may be sticking close to the McCannes in case they slip up ?

smiley11 · 10-09-2011, 18:54

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They may be sticking close to the McCannes in case they slip up ?

Sorry, confused... in case who slips up? The Portugese authorities?

Shouldn't the same rule apply to the Greek authorities?? Shouldn't it have applied 20 years ago?!!

crookesey · 10-09-2011, 18:54

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I'm not sure she's suggesting that crooksey. They should absolutely be brought to justice and punished. I think she's implying that it may be kinder to the child/children to let sleeping dogs lie as they may know nothing about ever being kidnapped and have a happy life.

Obviously, this fairy tale idea is completely unrealistic but hey, it could happen.

She is a he, who constantly posts uncaring rubbish.

hard2miss · 10-09-2011, 19:00

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Sorry, confused... in case who slips up? The Portugese authorities?

Shouldn't the same rule apply to the Greek authorities?? Shouldn't it have applied 20 years ago?!!

You know what Im getting at, nudge nudge,

Ms Macbeth · 10-09-2011, 19:06

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You know what Im getting at, nudge nudge,

Lets not go down that route again please. There are still missing children in both cases, they are the important people in all of this.

As sensible people have already observed, the media today is far different to what it was when Ben Needham went missing. Hopefully the search for both will get maximum publicity now.

hard2miss · 10-09-2011, 19:17

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Lets not go down that route again please. There are still missing children in both cases, they are the important people in all of this.

As sensible people have already observed, the media today is far different to what it was when Ben Needham went missing. Hopefully the search for both will get maximum publicity now.

Me being none sensible is a matter of opinion, your opinion. I happen to have my own opinion on the McCann case and I thought I would have been able to express it, maybe I was wrong ?

Ok, let me just answer the OP with this answer then, Maybe its because one mother looked distraught at loosing the child and the other looked like she had misplaced her keys ?

lolli_pop · 10-09-2011, 19:44

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Maybe its because one mother looked distraught at loosing the child and the other looked like she had misplaced her keys ?

People react to any kind of trauma in different ways. The level of emotion shown in front of the media is not necessarily a good indicator of anything - Karen Matthews and Tracie Andrews did a fair job of looking distraught for the media.

smiley11 · 10-09-2011, 20:32

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Originally Posted by hard2miss

Me being none sensible is a matter of opinion, your opinion. I happen to have my own opinion on the McCann case and I thought I would have been able to express it, maybe I was wrong ?

Ok, let me just answer the OP with this answer then, Maybe its because one mother looked distraught at loosing the child and the other looked like she had misplaced her keys ?

I think Kate Mcann and Kerry Needham would have been distraught in equal measures. That's a bit of a cheap shot to be honest.....

ANGELFIRE1 · 10-09-2011, 20:43

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Me being none sensible is a matter of opinion, your opinion. I happen to have my own opinion on the McCann case and I thought I would have been able to express it, maybe I was wrong ?

Ok, let me just answer the OP with this answer then, Maybe its because one mother looked distraught at loosing the child and the other looked like she had misplaced her keys ?

I concur.

I smell a rat here, which is my opinion, others may think/say differently

Regards

Angel.

smiley11 · 10-09-2011, 21:04

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I concur.

I smell a rat here, which is my opinion, others may think/say differently

Regards

Angel.

Smell a rat? Eh? Please enlighten me....

denlin · 10-09-2011, 21:08

Thought Kerry Grist had been granted permission to see Home
Secretary or somebody like that this week

Bludragonfly · 10-09-2011, 21:12

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http://www.helpfindben.co.uk/letter-to-pm.html

Moving letter from Kerry Needham to David Cameron.

It got me thinking, the Mcanns seem to have been 'offered' the MET to step in to help in the search for Maddie (including 30 specialist officers) plus a grant to fund it!

Kerry has been begging for this for over 20 years during her search for Ben but has been turned down every time.

How can this be fair?

It's not fair at all. It is because the McCann's are Doctors whilst Kerry Needham isn't

iphonelover · 10-09-2011, 21:17

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Aye, you have your opinion and I have mine, although I will refrain from calling your outburst "rubbish".

I lost my Father aged 6, by the age of 26 I had no recolection of him as a person. I imagine if he could have been brought back to life and presented to me as my Father, I would not have known him from Adam.

I was applying this logic to Ben's situation, that's all. What real benifit would it have been to me? - none. What real benefit would it be to Ben, none - not to his poor mother, but to Ben himself. He may not even speak English, he may not even be alive.

Not a simple decision to make when all the facts are looked at in a sensible fashion. Just my opinion.

As I said in my first post, "I would understand though if a parent never gave up hope, and looked for their lost child till their dying day. What a dreadful circumstance to be in."

Which part of this do you not understand.

Regards

Angel.

Although the first part of your post was a nice explanation of your opinion, which quite rightly we all have. It was sort of finsihed arrogantly 'what part of that do you not understand'

Your situation was sad, but very different.

The people who stole ben, should not get away with it. My opinion. He should not be led to believe until the day he dies (if, hopefully he is still alive) that his parents are these wonderful people, when realistically they arent!!!! They know Ben isn't theres and they know his isnt LEGALLY been adopted. So whether they actually had a hand in the kidnap or not they are a high % of BAD people. Ben should know that. At his age he can then make a decision to try and understand his current parents predicament and why they did it or he can try and build a relationship with his real mother.
Yes his entire life will be turned upside down, he and his current family will be distraught. BUT know one deserves to live their life in a complete lie. Every human being deserves the truth.
I dont either for one second think Bens real mother will be 100% happy when she finds him. I think you think she will be over the moon and expect a selfish on her part happy ending, she wont. She will be distraught to have to upset him and break his life up. It wont be a fairy tale ending but it will be the truth and Ben will at least realise someone has loved him more than anything in the world and fought every day for him. That will get Ben and his mum through it all, whether its a fairy tale or not.

Just my opinion, neither of us or right or wrong

Plopqwerty · 10-09-2011, 23:23

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Originally Posted by smiley11

http://www.helpfindben.co.uk/letter-to-pm.html

Moving letter from Kerry Needham to David Cameron.

It got me thinking, the Mcanns seem to have been 'offered' the MET to step in to help in the search for Maddie (including 30 specialist officers) plus a grant to fund it!

Kerry has been begging for this for over 20 years during her search for Ben but has been turned down every time.

How can this be fair?

I met Kerry about a month ago. Did not know I'd met her till I saw her on TV, she was a warm and decent person. So sad to think of all that pain.

Billy Casper · 10-09-2011, 23:34

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Originally Posted by hard2miss

Me being none sensible is a matter of opinion, your opinion. I happen to have my own opinion on the McCann case and I thought I would have been able to express it, maybe I was wrong ?

Ok, let me just answer the OP with this answer then, Maybe its because one mother looked distraught at loosing the child and the other looked like she had misplaced her keys ?

Many many unanswered questions in the McCann case, where as Kerry Needham, without question really did have her child kidnapped. I hope she gets all the help she needs.

iphonelover · 11-09-2011, 01:07

I still can not after all this time get my head around them leaving the kiddies in a room by themselves. Thats why many believe something sinister happened. I wouldnt like to comment on that but, Whether they were near or not it was a stupid thing to do and something they will have to live with forever.

Darth Vader · 11-09-2011, 02:48

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Many many unanswered questions in the McCann case,

Please, enlighten us.

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where as Kerry Needham, without question really did have her child kidnapped.

Please tell us how you can be certain that one of these children has definitely been 'kidnapped' and the other hasn't. Have either family received a ransom note? Where you at the scene in either case?

denlin · 11-09-2011, 07:01

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Please, enlighten us.

Please tell us how you can be certain that one of these children has definitely been 'kidnapped' and the other hasn't. Have either family received a ransom note? Where you at the scene in either case?

Kidnapped is being taken against your will but not necessarily for money. Although in Bens case at least the ransom would have probably been paid by the people who 'adopted' him. But as in both these cases nobody actually knows anything except the perpetrators. All we can do is speculate. However I know that I wouldn't have left very young children alone over here let alone in a strange country, I'm not saying that's what happened in Bens case but it certainly is in the McCanns.

Blue Day · 11-09-2011, 08:41

In answer to the original post - probably the same reason why the McCanns have never been charged with child neglect. If it had been a couple from a council estate in Sheffield on benefits would they have been treat the same??

denlin · 11-09-2011, 08:45

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In answer to the original post - probably the same reason why the McCanns have never been charged with child neglect. If it had been a couple from a council estate in Sheffield on benefits would they have been treat the same??

Absolutely not