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26-08-2011, 12:32
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Yes,we can see the prices is mostly increasing these days.I got some search and here's what i found.A diesel releases less carbon dioxide into the air because it is more fuel efficient.
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26-08-2011, 12:37
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No contest, diesel every time for me, I've has 4 1.9 tdi's in the past 16 years, and am just about to step up to a 2.2 tdi. They tend to be more reliable than petrol, due to fewer electrics I guess.
However if you expect to be stuck in traffic jams on a regular basis remember they rev at circa 1000, so you're burning far more fuel than a petrol with a low rev tick over.
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26-08-2011, 12:47
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No contest, diesel every time for me, I've has 4 1.9 tdi's in the past 16 years, and am just about to step up to a 2.2 tdi. They tend to be more reliable than petrol, due to fewer electrics I guess.
However if you expect to be stuck in traffic jams on a regular basis remember they rev at circa 1000, so you're burning far more fuel than a petrol with a low rev tick over.
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My diesel mondeo idles at about 800 rpm... the fuel computer says it uses 0.1 gall/hr at idle..
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26-08-2011, 13:10
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If I'm stuck in traffic I turn the engine off. You're getting 0mpg, same as if you left the engine running, but you're not using any fuel either. 
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26-08-2011, 13:58
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26-08-2011, 14:17
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If I'm stuck in traffic I turn the engine off. You're getting 0mpg, same as if you left the engine running, but you're not using any fuel either. |
You use quite a bit of fuel starting it, don't tell me that you push it. 
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26-08-2011, 14:41
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That was the case a few years ago when diesel pumps were all mechanical, but it's a different story these days, most modern diesels have electronic involvement/control & common rail systems, not to mention potential turbo, egr & associated problems!
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Diesel pumps are still mechanical - you need one to generate the high rail pressures. You also have to have mechanical injectors to open at the right time.
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26-08-2011, 14:42
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You use quite a bit of fuel starting it, don't tell me that you push it. |
Not really. A diesel starts with almost no fuel, same as a hot petrol engine will - they don't need richening on start like a petrol from cold would.
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26-08-2011, 14:51
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Diesel. Never touch a petrol again.
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26-08-2011, 15:21
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From past experience petrol cars have been much more reliable than diesel cars maybe because in petrol cars there is less to go wrong?
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26-08-2011, 15:29
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From past experience petrol cars have been much more reliable than diesel cars maybe because in petrol cars there is less to go wrong?
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The engines are similar but different. An 'old' diesel is simpler than a modern petrol. A modern diesel is more complicated than an 'old' petrol.
Modern versions of both are quite complicated.
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27-08-2011, 12:02
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The engines are similar but different. An 'old' diesel is simpler than a modern petrol. A modern diesel is more complicated than an 'old' petrol.
Modern versions of both are quite complicated.
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The new common rail diesels fitted to most cars are terribly unreliable or so ive heard?
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27-08-2011, 12:18
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The new common rail diesels fitted to most cars are terribly unreliable or so ive heard?
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Untrue, based on the volumes sold a few bad stories is not indicative of their reliability
Plenty of other stories of CR diesels with interstellar mileage, which have only had routine servicing (ask taxi drivers!)
In any case, petrol cars will soon all be common rail, with high pressure pumps using exactly the same technology
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27-08-2011, 13:15
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The new common rail diesels fitted to most cars are terribly unreliable or so ive heard?
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As emporer ming says, there are diesel cars doing tens of thousands of miles each and every day. look at the back of cars as you drive around - most new ones seem to be diesel - and you don't see many cars broken down.
Personally I've done 130k or so with two diesel engines in the last 8 years or so and I've not had any problems.
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27-08-2011, 18:18
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As emporer ming says, there are diesel cars doing tens of thousands of miles each and every day. look at the back of cars as you drive around - most new ones seem to be diesel - and you don't see many cars broken down.
Personally I've done 130k or so with two diesel engines in the last 8 years or so and I've not had any problems.
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Which engine is it as ive heard the TDCI engines in fords are common rail?
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27-08-2011, 19:29
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Committed petrol heads hate diesel, folk converted to diesel don't hate petrol, we just find in diesel vehicles something that suits us, we are not car fanatics, and have no issue with car fanatical petrol heads.
That is how I feel about matters, I don't love my car, I quite like it as long as it serves me well, I really go for an overall 45 mpg, and don't mind a 0 to 60 of 10 seconds.
How do you guys feel?
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27-08-2011, 19:45
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For arsonists it has to be the 4 star, diesel's no good, it doesn't go up.
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Reason: Trust me to spell diesel wrong!!
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27-08-2011, 21:07
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Diesel for me! I recently bought a 1 litre petrol corsa and it was the most fuel thirsty car I ever owned! Now got a diesel version. 48mpg knocking about and 64 on a run.
I dont think I would have a modern high mileage diesel though. The engines may be fine but the pumps will cost a fortune if they go wrong.
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28-08-2011, 20:19
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Diesel for me! I recently bought a 1 litre petrol corsa and it was the most fuel thirsty car I ever owned! Now got a diesel version. 48mpg knocking about and 64 on a run.
I dont think I would have a modern high mileage diesel though. The engines may be fine but the pumps will cost a fortune if they go wrong.
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I think its because with a small petrol car its needs to be revved hard to get it going where as with a small diesel the turbo gives it that extra oomph so it drinks less diesel.
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30-08-2011, 12:05
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The new common rail diesels fitted to most cars are terribly unreliable or so ive heard?
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I've had 3 common rail diesels over the past 9 years and done a total of around 400,000 miles in them without a problem...
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