Sneaky Camera Van-A629 - Page 3

ECCOnoob · 19-07-2011, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Macbeth

Then should they really be driving round in a van marked Police? I bet I wouldn't be allowed to do that.

Its not marked POLICE. Its marked Safety Camera PARTNERSHIP which includes the Police, Highways Authoirty, Sheffield City Council and Central Government.

They are there to do one job. Look out and obtain evidence of speeding vehicles. They are not being sneaky otherwise they would not be sat in a big massive van with brightly coloured markings and speed camera signs on it. As others have said.... If you cant see that then you shouldn't be driving a car.

Some people need to get over themselves. If you are not breaking the speed limit then you've got no problems.

andyofborg · 19-07-2011, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Bonjon

I have only seen limits go one way and that was down. Penistone road for example, there is no need for this to be a 30, this should be a minimum 40.

there is every need for penistone road to remain at 30.

Cyclone · 19-07-2011, 18:56

Why? Nobody drives at 30 except past the speed camera, it's not an accident blackspot, it has no residential areas alongside and there are no pedestrians...

HeadingNorth · 19-07-2011, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Cyclone

Why? Nobody drives at 30 except past the speed camera, it's not an accident blackspot, it has no residential areas alongside and there are no pedestrians...

You make a good argument for raising the speed limit to 40. You also make a good argument for hiding the speed cameras, so that people breaking the law won't know at exactly which point to stick to it and be assured of breaking it with impunity everywhere else.

Cyclone · 19-07-2011, 19:39

If the speed limit were appropriate then people wouldn't break it.
If everyone is breaking it, then it's a good sign that it's the limit that is wrong.

Planner1 · 19-07-2011, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Cyclone

Why? Nobody drives at 30 except past the speed camera, it's not an accident blackspot, it has no residential areas alongside and there are no pedestrians...

I drive on Penistone Road every day. Not everyone goes over the speed limit, plenty of people observe the limit.
There are residential areas alongside it. Ever noticed the large block of flats on Penistone Rd at Albert Terrace Rd and the large block on Bradfield Rd, a few yards off Penistone Rd?
No pedestrians? what about the hundreds of students crossing to/from the college, people going to the Sports Centre and the dog / speedway track. And let's not forget the football ground.

Not an accident blackspot? How do you know?

jimbob321 · 19-07-2011, 22:39

there was a sneaky one this morning near the wetherby pub in aston at about 8am!! just at one of those places where 200 yards up the road it changes to 40mph, but everyone driving through the crossroads speeds up before it so i bet they caught loads :@

Riche · 19-07-2011, 23:05

Ive seen it and it moves, I flashed and gave him a freindly beep the other day, I'm sure I saw the Stig behind the camera. FTP

Eater Sundae · 19-07-2011, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Cyclone

If the speed limit were appropriate then people wouldn't break it.
If everyone is breaking it, then it's a good sign that it's the limit that is wrong.

...or there are a lot of bad drivers around.

HeadingNorth · 19-07-2011, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Cyclone

If the speed limit were appropriate then people wouldn't break it.

That is palpably untrue. I've seen people drive past schools at 50+mph, while children were going in and out.

Some people just are selfishly bad drivers, and that's disregarding the number of people who don't seem able to keep track of how fast they're doing. I don't know how many people are so incapable, but judging by the number of people who have posted on this forum that cameras should be replaced by signs indicating how fast a car is travelling, I assume it must be quite a lot.

metalman · 20-07-2011, 05:26

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Originally Posted by Planner1

I drive on Penistone Road every day. Not everyone goes over the speed limit, plenty of people observe the limit.
There are residential areas alongside it. Ever noticed the large block of flats on Penistone Rd at Albert Terrace Rd and the large block on Bradfield Rd, a few yards off Penistone Rd?
No pedestrians? what about the hundreds of students crossing to/from the college, people going to the Sports Centre and the dog / speedway track. And let's not forget the football ground.

Not an accident blackspot? How do you know?

And let's not forget that large stretch underneath the pigeon lofts where there are so many pedestrians that the council hasn't even bothered to provide a pavement.

Cyclone · 20-07-2011, 05:43

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Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

That is palpably untrue. I've seen people drive past schools at 50+mph, while children were going in and out.

Some people just are selfishly bad drivers, and that's disregarding the number of people who don't seem able to keep track of how fast they're doing. I don't know how many people are so incapable, but judging by the number of people who have posted on this forum that cameras should be replaced by signs indicating how fast a car is travelling, I assume it must be quite a lot.

Should have said 'most' people.

If most people are breaking it (85th percentile rule) then the limit is probably inappropriate.

Cyclone · 20-07-2011, 05:45

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Originally Posted by Planner1

I drive on Penistone Road every day. Not everyone goes over the speed limit, plenty of people observe the limit.
There are residential areas alongside it. Ever noticed the large block of flats on Penistone Rd at Albert Terrace Rd and the large block on Bradfield Rd, a few yards off Penistone Rd?
No pedestrians? what about the hundreds of students crossing to/from the college, people going to the Sports Centre and the dog / speedway track. And let's not forget the football ground.

Not an accident blackspot? How do you know?

There are so many different stretches of Penistone road that some could have a 40 limit, and others where there might be pedestrians could keep the 30.
I was thinking of the section from the dog track up to the speed camera. No residential areas, never any pedestrians, and I doubt that 1/10 cars is deliberately observing 30mph.

Cyclone · 20-07-2011, 05:46

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Originally Posted by Eater Sundae

...or there are a lot of bad drivers around.

Only if you simplistically assume that breaking a speed limit is bad driving.

alchresearch · 20-07-2011, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Cyclone

Only if you simplistically assume that breaking a speed limit is bad driving.

Which it is. You're either deliberately ignoring the speed limit, or you've not noticed the signs for the speed limit.

If you can't follow the rules of the road then you're breaking the conditions of having a driving licence.

Bonjon · 20-07-2011, 08:51

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Originally Posted by beansforyou

The van can use either window, facing etiher along the 40MPH bridge, or down onto the 60mph A616,

Since the deaths of two more people a few week ago, the A616 has been crawling with police and speed vans.

Bit of a pity it's needed to come to this.

Well it had its beady camera facing me coming towards it (on the A629).

Cyclone · 20-07-2011, 08:56

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Originally Posted by alchresearch

Which it is. You're either deliberately ignoring the speed limit, or you've not noticed the signs for the speed limit.

If you can't follow the rules of the road then you're breaking the conditions of having a driving licence.

What makes you think that deliberately ignoring an inappropriate rule is bad driving?

Your statement in bold is patently not true either, otherwise every infringement would result in the loss of your license.

Bonjon · 20-07-2011, 09:00

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Originally Posted by tbtc

I've found an even easier way to avoid getting speeding fines; stick to the speed limit.

Can't see what the fuss is myself and why people think they are above the law.

Have we already forgotten about the couple of deaths recently on the A616?

I'm pretty sure that at some point (providing you drive) that you have broken the speed limit, intentionally or not.

Infact I will go as far as to say I doubt there is anyone who drives who at some point has not broken the speed limit.

Bonjon · 20-07-2011, 09:01

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Originally Posted by waddy13

MINOR transgression of the law cameras, MINOR traffic infringment!!!!! speed kills and maims it is NOT a MINOR law/traffic infringment speeding is a killer and should be dealt with as such.

Speed doesn't kill, but the idiot behind the wheel with poor judgment does.

Planner1 · 20-07-2011, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Cyclone

There are so many different stretches of Penistone road that some could have a 40 limit, and others where there might be pedestrians could keep the 30.
I was thinking of the section from the dog track up to the speed camera. No residential areas, never any pedestrians, and I doubt that 1/10 cars is deliberately observing 30mph.

There is only one short length where there is no footway on either side, it's about 200m long. Not worth changing a speed limit for that.

From the dog track to the speed camera is about a mile. You'd save a whole 30 seconds at 40mph (if you didn't get stopped at the lights). Again, can't really see that it's worth changing the limit over that stretch if you are keeping the 30 either side of it. There are businesses both sides of the road on most of that stretch, so there will be some pedestrians.