as most of you know my daughter recently had a sprog,this means we are now a 6 person family living in a 3 bed room house,its a bit cramped at bed times as the 3 bed rooms are on the small side but its no big deal and i'm sure many people are more crowded than we are.
anyway our young'ns decided her and her bloke want their own place which is understandable but they arnt in a position to buy at the moment and probably won't be for a few years yet so she went to the council a few weeks ago (she's been on the waiting list 2 years) she was told she'd have to be homeless before she'd be consisered.
i knew they would say that to her so i had told her to say she will be in a month as i'd given her a months notice.she was then told she have to spend 6 months in a hostel and then her case would be reconsidered.
how mad is that,surle council houses are for people that need somewhere to live and can't afford to buy,her fella is in full time work and she will be returning to work herself in the near future so they aint on the scrounge or owt so what are they supposed to do
she's looked at a couple of private propertys but the rent is sky high (£550 a month for a house on the manor park).
Housing Associations?? No Registered social landlord will let houses to people without children. The 'if you're not homeless you'll not get anywhere' is very lazy as it isnt true. Long waiting times for your daughter I think....anywhere from 5-7 years for any sort of house in Sheffield....The demand is sky high everywhere
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Originally posted by kirky how mad is that,surle council houses are for people that need somewhere to live and can't afford to buy
That's not actually true, never has been and never will be, they are reserved for immigrants (Talkin from experience) I spent 8yrs in the forces, came out moved to Plymouth and was made homeless, I was told by a mate of mine and saw it with my own eyes...they have a target to stick to each week of immigrants to house so they get their budget...unfortunately I found somewhere to live and the n moved up here so the moral of the story is:- It isn't always better to have a roof over your head, not when the alternative is not living in Sheffield...
Good luck anyway, get her to go with a somalian or other for a week or so and she'll get a place guarenteed.
Originally posted by BobDaBuilder That's not actually true, never has been and never will be, they are reserved for immigrants
Aha - a late contender for "most inaccuarate posting of 2005" - either that or my eyes are deceiving me when I see all those white people on the Manor / Shiregreen/ Parson Cross / Arbourthorne etc etc.
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I notice you mention all the really nice areas of Sheffield...what about, park hill, broomhall, darnall, handsworth etc etc...I know that is another in-correct statement as there aren't any nice areas in Sheffield apart from the M1 southbound but let's face it, who in the right mind wants to live on the manor, parsons X etc...?
my son had been on the council list only about 3 years and he bid on a few flats and got one straight away with no points at all so it is worth trying getting her registration no from council and bidding on some flats.hope this helps
Must admit I came to Sheffield in 2002 from Wolves and moved into park hill within 2 weeks but I uess to you lott up ere i'm classed as an immigrant innit...?
Now living in another council flat elsewhere in the city centre, they just throw em at me so write me a cheque and i'll sort ya one out...lol
i rent from a housing association, have been for just over a year, was pretty quick finding me somewhere, a lot quicker and easier than getting a council house
Originally posted by BobDaBuilder That's not actually true, never has been and never will be, they are reserved for immigrants (Talkin from experience) I spent 8yrs in the forces, came out moved to Plymouth and was made homeless, I was told by a mate of mine and saw it with my own eyes...they have a target to stick to each week of immigrants to house so they get their budget...unfortunately I found somewhere to live and the n moved up here so the moral of the story is:- It isn't always better to have a roof over your head, not when the alternative is not living in Sheffield...
Good luck anyway, get her to go with a somalian or other for a week or so and she'll get a place guarenteed.
What's that smell?
oh yeah! It's BS.
and what are you talking about, B-DaB? there is no such area in Sheffield called ParsonS Cross. it's Parson Cross, and it's not that bad an area.
YOUR own experience, as a healthy, single male, with no dependants is par for the course (for someone healthy, single and male).
You are not classified as being vulnerable, (there are places like the sally army hostels where you could lodge) and you aren't fleeing domestic violence, or are long-term sick/ disabled, or have dependant children, all of which would bump up your "in need" status. So you would not have as much priority as, say someone with kiddies.
The council's duties are to those considered to be in greatest danger. There is a sliding scale of priority (which are much of a muchness across most councils, and Housing Assoc's up and down the country. you will find that the criteria from one to the other are pretty comparative).
Would you say that a homeless kiddie could cope, like a bloke would be able to, in a sally army hostel? And would you demand to be housed, ahead of a homeless kiddie?
Yes some people are too quick to say "I wll only live in area X", and will not consider anywhere else. (certain needs excepting)
I needed disabled-adapted housing, somewhere with level access so I could get my "chariot" in and out of the house, step-free, particularly. Now, even with MY need, I had to bid on two accessible properties, one on the manor, and one on this development. I got this one, obviously, but even in my need, I still had to bid! I was unsuccessful in geting the one on the manor, and had to wait another eight or nine months for this one to come available. (edit to add, they were both housing assoc properties, BTW)
PT
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Originally posted by Plain Talker What's that smell?
oh yeah! It's BS.
and what are you talking about, B-DaB? there is no such area in Sheffield called ParsonS Cross. it's Parson Cross, and it's not that bad an area.
YOUR own experience, as a healthy, single male, with no dependants is par for the course (for someone healthy, single and male).
You are not classified as being vulnerable, (there are places like the sally army hostels where you could lodge) and you aren't fleeing domestic violence, or are long-term sick/ disabled, or have dependant children, all of which would bump up your "in need" status. So you would not have as much priority as, say someone with kiddies.
The council's duties are to those considered to be in greatest danger. There is a sliding scale of priority (which are much of a muchness across most councils, and Housing Assoc's up and down the country. you will find that the criteria from one to the other are pretty comparative).
Would you say that a homeless kiddie could cope, like a bloke would be able to, in a sally army hostel? And would you demand to be housed, ahead of a homeless kiddie?
Yes some people are too quick to say "I wll only live in area X", and will not consider anywhere else. (certain needs excepting)
I needed disabled-adapted housing, somewhere with level access so I could get my "chariot" in and out of the house, step-free, particularly. Now, even with MY need, I had to bid on two accessible properties, one on the manor, and one on this development. I got this one, obviously, but even in my need, I still had to bid! I was unsuccessful in geting the one on the manor, and had to wait another eight or nine months for this one to come available. (edit to add, they were both housing assoc properties, BTW)
PT
brill..........the bloke does his bit for queen and country comes home then is told he cant have a place to live cause hes not vulnerable !!!!!!!! well WE flippin would be without the likes of him
I would recommend that your daughter gets on Northern Counties Housing Association List. I got a house with them when I was just a couple. It took about 6 months to a year.
Originally posted by depoix brill..........the bloke does his bit for queen and country comes home then is told he cant have a place to live cause hes not vulnerable !!!!!!!! well WE flippin would be without the likes of him
I aint disputing his service record.
what I am bs- smellinging is the immigrant thing.
Immigrants like a-s's/refugees etc are allocated to councils up and down the country to be housed as and when the housing places are needed, that's the only quota involved.
If the govt allocate them to a council to be housed, they get the help from that council. the council don't actually have much of a say in it.
Again I repeat, there are certain categories that it is mandatory that the council classify as being vulnerable, and are obliged to find accommodation for, which include (but is not limited to):-
Disabled people
Refugees
Persons fleeing domestic abuse
Persons with dependent children
younger, fit, healthy males, (who have no dependents) don't fit those criteria. They are expected to be able to fend for themselves, by going where the work or housing is.
PT
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Half of three quarters of nowt, is still bugger all.(crookeseys grandpa)
Be a responsible owner, have your pet Chipped and Neutered.... PLEASE
Originally posted by alysonpeach I would recommend that your daughter gets on Northern Counties Housing Association List. I got a house with them when I was just a couple. It took about 6 months to a year.
Originally posted by Plain Talker I aint disputing his service record.
what I am bs- smellinging is the immigrant thing.
Immigrants like a-s's/refugees etc are allocated to councils up and down the country to be housed as and when the housing places are needed, that's the only quota involved.
If the govt allocate them to a council to be housed, they get the help from that council. the council don't actually have much of a say in it.
Again I repeat, there are certain categories that it is mandatory that the council classify as being vulnerable, and are obliged to find accommodation for, which include (but is not limited to):-
Disabled people
Refugees
Persons fleeing domestic abuse
Persons with dependent children
younger, fit, healthy males, (who have no dependents) don't fit those criteria. They are expected to be able to fend for themselves, by going where the work or housing is.
PT
whats the criteria difference then for a single immigrant compared to other single persons ? you dont seem to see as many on the streets as you do ex forces,according to one advert on tv the ex forces make up a quarter of the numbers of homeless persons
dont take this as a pop at immigrants, more a slap at the government for not looking after those who have served them well and then get kicked in the teeth when they no longer serve their purpose, housing should be a prioroty issue for service familes,married,single or whatever, just like the index linked pensions of the fat cats and civil servants
I agree with you, on that particular score depoix, that the govt should get off thier backsides and help ALL in need I also agree that, yes, having worked with the homeless, and seen a lot of it for myself, it's probably quite true that there is a high proportion of ex-forces personnel on the streets.
It is iniquitous that ANYONE should have to go without, (whether it's without food, adequate clothing or adequate shelter) in this day and age, whoever they are, wherever they are.
however, the "ill-treatment" meted out to returning servicemen is not a modern phenomenon, The servicemen that returned to the British Isles from fighting in the first world war, returned to a land supposedly "fit for heroes", and look at how abysmally they were treated.
PT
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Half of three quarters of nowt, is still bugger all.(crookeseys grandpa)
Be a responsible owner, have your pet Chipped and Neutered.... PLEASE
