[Darth Vader]

New footage has been released of the final tragic moments of Ian Tomlinson's life.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12896450

The court also heard that prosecutors may review the decision not to charge officers over Mr Tomlinson's death.

I don't know if this is new footage of the actual 'push' to the ground by the police officer, but it looks different to the footage that was initially released.

[Leah-Lacie]

I just heard on the radio that that is footage filmed by his wife / girlfriend, so wouldn't that have been one of the first bits of footage to have been given in?

[Magilla]

Originally Posted by Leah-Lacie

I just heard on the radio that that is footage filmed by his wife / girlfriend

No, you heard that his wife just watched it. She didn't film it, she wasn't there.

[Leah-Lacie]

Ah right, well they informed me wrong then

[taxman]

There is also footage of the same copper pushing a BBC reporter to the ground in a different incident and also footage showing Mr Tomlinson trying to cross the police lines in order to go home, but being prevented.

[Darth Vader]

Originally Posted by taxman

and also footage showing Mr Tomlinson trying to cross the police lines in order to go home, but being prevented.

Yeah, that's on the original link too.

Originally Posted by taxman

There is also footage of the same copper pushing a BBC reporter to the ground in a different incident

Good heavens, I didn't know that though! Do you have a link? Was it on the same day?

[taxman]

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

Yeah, that's on the original link too.



Good heavens, I didn't know that though! Do you have a link? Was it on the same day?

It was reported on the BBC News coverage of the inquest. CCTV followed the policeman in question throughout the day, he had a distinctive manner of carrying his baton and his hi viz jacket was tucked in at the back so he was easy enough to distinguish.

No doubt the case will be put that he was a loose cannon during the day.

[Darth Vader]

Originally Posted by taxman

It was reported on the BBC News coverage of the inquest. CCTV followed the policeman in question throughout the day, he had a distinctive manner of carrying his baton and his hi viz jacket was tucked in at the back so he was easy enough to distinguish.

No doubt the case will be put that he was a loose cannon during the day.

Yep, I've seen it now, thanks taxman.

I couldn't believe it when I read your post, but on reflection I don't know why I was so surprised. To push a BBC reporter to the ground like that, he must have believed he was 'untouchable'. So far, it's looking like he was largely right, if that was the case.

[upinwath]

The coppers had been stoned and attacked in various manners for a good while.
Some drunk walks up and the copper gives him a shove.

Not that big a shock.

[auto98uk]

Originally Posted by upinwath

The coppers had been stoned and attacked in various manners for a good while.
Some drunk walks up and the copper gives him a shove.

Not that big a shock.

You mean some "drunk" (though it has been denied he was drunk) was walking away from the copper when he decided for no reason to assault him from behind, I assume? Was the BBC cameraman also drunk?

[spindrift]

The cops killed Tomlinson as surely as if they'd shot an innocent unarmed man seven times and then lied about his behaviour, claimed he was acting suspiciously, was wearing a bulky jacket, vaulted the tube barrier, all a pack of lies.

[Resident]

Originally Posted by upinwath

Some drunk walks up and the copper gives him a shove.

Not that big a shock.

Only the officer in question claims he was drunk and as AutoUK98 points out, the footage shows Ian walking AWAY from the officer that assaulted him unprovoked.

Further footage from the day, as said, shows the same officer assaulting a BBC cameraman, dragging him to the ground, as said was the cameraman "drunk" too?

Originally Posted by upinwath

The coppers had been stoned and attacked in various manners for a good while.

So say you were in a battlezone for instance, you've been shot at for a while when you happen upon an innocent civilian caught up in the crossfire. Does the fact that you've been shot at for a while give you the right to fire at an unarmed innocent civilian?

No it doesn't.

The footage clearly shows that Mr Tomlinson posed no threat to ANY of the officers in that line-up but that officer CHOSE to attack him anyway

Originally Posted by BBC Report

Simon Harwood will face a charge of gross misconduct at a disciplinary hearing that could see him dismissed by Scotland Yard but this will not take place until the inquest has ended.

I will be VERY dismayed if this is the only charge handed down to this officer. At minimum it should be manslaughter. I doubt they'd manage a murder charge as it will be claimed that the officer did not intend to kill Mr Tomlinson

[sccsux]

Originally Posted by upinwath

Some drunk walks up and the copper gives him a shove.

Who are you referring to with such a disparaging remark?

[spindrift]

Originally Posted by upinwath

The coppers had been stoned and attacked in various manners for a good while.

No, they had not. There were nothing thrown at the police before they killed Tomlinson.

After his murder the police formed a cordon around him and a plastic bottle was thrown. The police lied about this too and claimed a "barrage" of missiles had been thrown. More lies.



http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/ind...ic=6913.0;wap2

Link to new video - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/ap...omlinson-death

New footage obtained by the Guardian today gives an insight into the way police and protesters treated Ian Tomlinson, the man who collapsed and died shortly after being struck and pushed over by the police at last week's G20 protest.

The video provides further evidence that the initial explanation of Tomlinson's final moments released by police was misleading.

It also corroborates the version of events given to the Guardian by witnesses to his death, some of whom are pictured in the film.

Moments before the video was shot, around 7.20pm on 1 April, Tomlinson was struck with a baton and thrown to the floor by a riot officer who had covered half his face with a balaclava and concealed his badge number.

Tomlinson was then seen stumbling down Cornhill, in the City of London, towards the spot, opposite St Michael's Alley, where he collapsed.

The footage, shot by Nabeela Zahir, a 27-year-old freelance journalist from London, contains three important elements to note:

• Police move quickly to push away those protesters and bystanders who were aiding Tomlinson, including a man on the phone to the ambulance service. The ambulance service wanted to be put in contact with the officer, who declined to take the call.

• The reaction of protesters is important. After the demonstration, police accused them of impeding Tomlinson's treatment by subjecting the officers and medics to a hail of missiles. In the video, a missile is seen to be thrown but you can hear someone in the crowd saying: "There's someone hurt. Don't throw anything." This indicates something was thrown, but certainly there was no barrage of missiles on film, and nothing reached the police. A man is also seen, standing with his arms in the air, shouting: "There is someone hurt here. Back the floppity up."

• The riot officers have concealed their faces. Pause at 56 seconds. There are four officers in shot. Three have their face masks pulled half-way up their faces.

[scoobydotcom]

Seems this guy was just being annoying rather than aggressive in any way, it says he had a drink problem so wouldn't be a surprise if he was drunk.

[Darth Vader]

Originally Posted by scoobydotcom

Seems this guy was just being annoying rather than aggressive in any way, it says he had a drink problem so wouldn't be a surprise if he was drunk.

He had been working and his way home was blocked off by police, so he was looking for alternative ways home but kept finding himself blocked by police.

[Darth Vader]

Originally Posted by Resident

Only the officer in question claims he was drunk and as AutoUK98 points out, the footage shows Ian walking AWAY from the officer that assaulted him unprovoked.

Further footage from the day, as said, shows the same officer assaulting a BBC cameraman, dragging him to the ground, as said was the cameraman "drunk" too?



So say you were in a battlezone for instance, you've been shot at for a while when you happen upon an innocent civilian caught up in the crossfire. Does the fact that you've been shot at for a while give you the right to fire at an unarmed innocent civilian?

No it doesn't.

The footage clearly shows that Mr Tomlinson posed no threat to ANY of the officers in that line-up but that officer CHOSE to attack him anyway



I will be VERY dismayed if this is the only charge handed down to this officer. At minimum it should be manslaughter. I doubt they'd manage a murder charge as it will be claimed that the officer did not intend to kill Mr Tomlinson

Excellent post. And from a prime-minister that seems so intent on seeing that Gadhaffi is brought to justice in Libya, perhaps he should be intervening in what's going on his own country, in the name of justice!

[megalithic]

Seems that cop is just a thug, he should be banged up for life.

[rickiethecat]

It does seem like this is a story that has been heavily manipulated by left wing pressure groups with an axe to grind against the police. I suspect it's taken so long for this new footage to come to light because it's been heavily edited to portray the police in as worst a way as possible.

Most impartial reports I've read suggest that the policeman was trying to manage as extremely volatile situation in as best a way he could and had no intention of doing Tomlinson any harm. I think it would be best if we drew a line under the whole story and moved on.

[sccsux]

Originally Posted by rickiethecat

I think it would be best if we drew a line under the whole story and moved on.

Yeah, brush it under the carpet