OMG! How horrific!!

smudge74 · 24-03-2011, 23:29

Staffy set alight and thrown down the rubbish shoot (no graphic pictures).
http://www.staffords.co.uk/sbtrescue/

Poor little fella

smudge74 · 24-03-2011, 23:31

Could this be of any help to any of the rescues? It talks about providing funds for Staffie groups/rescues and giving financial help to set up new groups/rescues. Given Sheffield's problems maybe one of the rescues could set up a "Staffie wing". They will also give financial assistance to any rescue that can prove they take a high percentage of Staffies
http://www.staffords.co.uk/gallimore/gallimore.htm

Tess · 25-03-2011, 06:52

What the hell is wrong with some people? It just doesn't compute with me at all.

hodgepig66 · 25-03-2011, 07:23

The longer i'm on this planet the more i wish i wasn't,speechless yet again...

FallenAngel6 · 25-03-2011, 07:59

The link wont work for me but i can imagine it being very horrific....i think their are some cruel heartless monsters out there who should get what they give...an eye for an eye.

mglrgn31 · 25-03-2011, 08:08

OMG i am utterly shocked, people just seem to be geting crueller

staffsNlaffs · 25-03-2011, 08:32

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Originally Posted by hodgepig66

The longer i'm on this planet the more i wish i wasn't,speechless yet again...

With you there, i'm not even going to look at the link, I've got horror indelibly stamped in my mind, i don't need more

LitleMermaid · 25-03-2011, 09:40

That's horrific. I just can not comprehend some people.

smudge74 · 25-03-2011, 10:12

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Originally Posted by FallenAngel6

The link wont work for me but i can imagine it being very horrific....i think their are some cruel heartless monsters out there who should get what they give...an eye for an eye.

It's a happy ending to a terrible story really. Jack, an SBT, was set on fire and thrown down a rubbish shoot. They managed to save hime, but he suffered bad burns and will need treatment for the rest of his life. He is now witha loving new family. He has the sweetest little face

http://www.staffords.co.uk/gallimore/jack.htm

Moonbird · 25-03-2011, 10:18

Please just pop a description on if you post a link so that people know what to expect if they watch it so that it won't cause upset.

What a terrible thing to do to an animal, some people just don't come under the description of Human beings do they?
This sounds awful to say but how awful for the dog to be kept alive with sore skin that needs cream on for every day of his life, sometimes I think that kindness can be taken too far and it becomes something else.

LitleMermaid · 25-03-2011, 10:22

I agree Moon-we all know how painful burns, even small ones are, and this poor little lad is covered. My heart refuses accept this point of view and tells me to keep animals alive if we can, but my head tells me it's not always fair. How the hell can someone do this? If people were not so horrible dilemmas like this wouldn't even exist.

smudge74 · 25-03-2011, 10:23

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Originally Posted by Moonbird

Please just pop a description on if you post a link so that people know what to expect if they watch it so that it won't cause upset.

What a terrible thing to do to an animal, some people just don't come under the description of Human beings do they?
This sounds awful to say but how awful for the dog to be kept alive with sore skin that needs cream on for every day of his life, sometimes I think that kindness can be taken too far and it becomes something else.

I thought that, but he looks more than happy in his pictures. The cream will be more than likely for scar management, rather than because his skin will remain sore. The scars can contract if not treated properly and cause the skin to become tight, which then causes problems with mobility etc. I think he has found his happy ending bless him. The link that i have posted further down explains what has happened to him since.

Sorry about not adding a description. I thought the fact that i said it was horrific might have given it away that it could be upsetting

staffsNlaffs · 25-03-2011, 10:26

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Originally Posted by LitleMermaid

I agree Moon-we all know how painful burns, even small ones are, and this poor little lad is covered. My heart refuses accept this point of view and tells me to keep animals alive if we can, but my head tells me it's not always fair. How the hell can someone do this? If people were not so horrible dilemmas like this wouldn't even exist.

You got to hope that it stays with them and changes their life later on to do some good.

smudge74 · 25-03-2011, 10:26

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Originally Posted by LitleMermaid

I agree Moon-we all know how painful burns, even small ones are, and this poor little lad is covered. My heart refuses accept this point of view and tells me to keep animals alive if we can, but my head tells me it's not always fair. How the hell can someone do this? If people were not so horrible dilemmas like this wouldn't even exist.

Human burn victims make full recoveries and lead normal lives. There's no reason a dog can't do the same. We can't criticise our "throwaway culture" with pets and complain they don't have the same rights as humans, then complain when they are given the same respect and treatment that a human would recieve. It was 2nd degree burns, maybe 3rd degree would've meant he would have to be put to sleep. See the 2nd link

http://www.staffords.co.uk/gallimore/jack.htm

, the little fella looks more than happy

Moonbird · 25-03-2011, 10:27

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Originally Posted by LitleMermaid

I agree Moon-we all know how painful burns, even small ones are, and this poor little lad is covered. My heart refuses accept this point of view and tells me to keep animals alive if we can, but my head tells me it's not always fair. How the hell can someone do this? If people were not so horrible dilemmas like this wouldn't even exist.

I know, and its easy for me to sit here never having met him or looked into his face and say that...I wonder if I could if he were sat at my feet.
God knows how people find the strength to decide it must be very hard, but surely if you take on the responsibility sometimes the head has to rule the heart, life long suffering is not kind nor rescuing anything...God bless those that have to decide.

staffsNlaffs · 25-03-2011, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Moonbird

I know, and its easy for me to sit here never having met him or looked into his face and say that...I wonder if I could if he were sat at my feet.
God knows how people find the strength to decide it must be very hard, but surely if you take on the responsibility sometimes the head has to rule the heart, life long suffering is not kind nor rescuing anything...God bless those that have to decide.

But lets not forget that some of these decisions are made from behind a desk

Moonbird · 25-03-2011, 10:35

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Originally Posted by smudge74

Human burn victims make full recoveries and lead normal lives. There's no reason a dog can't do the same. We can't criticise our "throwaway culture" with pets and complain they don't have the same rights as humans, then complain when they are given the same respect and treatment that a human would recieve. It was 2nd degree burns, maybe 3rd degree would've meant he would have to be put to sleep. See the 2nd link

http://www.staffords.co.uk/gallimore/jack.htm

, the little fella looks more than happy

He does look happy and loved in his new home I have to say.

I couldn't see the pics before for some reason...but his skin looks so sore Smudge so this doesn't really change my mind, I agree about Human burn victims recovering etc, but Humans understand and make choices for themselves where animals really can't, he won't understand why he has the cream rubbed on and why it probably still hurts and perhaps always will.

I really don't want to criticise the rescuers they do a great job and I don't envy them, but there is another way of looking at things sometimes....Rochdale is a shocking place for cruelty and abandonment of animals!

smudge74 · 25-03-2011, 10:37

I think, for him, it was the best decision. Just look at that face, it tells a picture. For others i agree, we keep them alive for our own reasons, not in their best interests

smudge74 · 25-03-2011, 10:41

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Originally Posted by smudge74

Could this be of any help to any of the rescues? It talks about providing funds for Staffie groups/rescues and giving financial help to set up new groups/rescues. Given Sheffield's problems maybe one of the rescues could set up a "Staffie wing". They will also give financial assistance to any rescue that can prove they take a high percentage of Staffies
http://www.staffords.co.uk/gallimore/gallimore.htm

Anyway, hugs to Jack, the link above is what I want to draw people's attenttion to now. Could it benefit any of our rescues do you think. We have an incredibly high proportion of SBT's in them

Moonbird · 25-03-2011, 10:42

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Originally Posted by smudge74

I think, for him, it was the best decision. Just look at that face, it tells a picture. For others i agree, we keep them alive for our own reasons, not in their best interests

I don't think that I can see the rest of the story for some reason, but anyway I am genuinely glad that he is now happy Smudge and I hope that he does lead a long and full life without pain.