Council League Tables.

Lickszz · 18-04-2003, 01:50

Where does Sheffield Council stand then?

Chris · 18-04-2003, 17:24

Apparently somewhere near the top - which doesn't say much for the other councils round here :shock:

Lickszz · 18-04-2003, 17:53

Quote:

Originally posted by "Chris"

Apparently somewhere near the top - which doesn't say much for the other councils round here :shock:

Interesting, I am shocked to say the least. Thanks for that.

Chris · 19-04-2003, 09:57

Quote:

Originally posted by "Lickszz"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Apparently somewhere near the top - which doesn't say much for the other councils round here :shock:

Interesting, I am shocked to say the least. Thanks for that.

I find it a bizarre statistic too - goes to demonstrate that using league tables to demonstrate which is better is a deeply flawed idea.

wendygs · 28-08-2005, 21:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris
Apparently somewhere near the top - which doesn't say much for the other councils round here :shock:

What is the basis of these statistics and how is the raw data compiled? Is there any improvement since 2003 and what factors have been taken in to consideration.

the_rudeboy · 29-08-2005, 10:33

Have a look here and it might help explain why Sheffield City Council has an 'excellent' rating.

wendygs · 29-08-2005, 12:03

Well it's certainly true Sheffield's potholed roads are definitely cant be beat. Never come across anything like it any where else in the UK.

wendygs · 30-08-2005, 07:45

For those who are interested, here's the Forum link on the state of Sheffield's roads.
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/show...5&pagenumber=1

And by the way the Poll on that thread demonstrates conclusively the the quality of road maintenance leaves much to be desired.

I am therefore at a loss to understand the basis upon which the Council has scored in this area of competence.

Tony · 30-08-2005, 07:56

Quote:

From the SCC website: resurface 30 km of road each year

... in 2.4 million sections.

wendygs · 30-08-2005, 08:08

On the SF thread only 8 out of 113 people voted they were satisfied with the state of Sheffield's roads

cgksheff · 30-08-2005, 08:20

The Audit Commission has published its third comprehensive performance assessment of English councils. Local authorities were given scores of between 1 (the lowest possible score) and 4 (the highest) on key services - including housing, social services and education - and then ranked as one of excellent, good, fair, weak or poor.

Thursday December 16, 2004

Sheffield
Overall 2002 good
Overall 2003 good
Overall 2004 excellent
Council ability 4
Core service 3
Use of resources 4
Education 3
Social care adults 2
Social care children 3
Social care star rating **
Housing 3
Benefits 3
Environment 3
Libraries and leisure 3

By my reckoning, out of 150 councils, 41 scored 'excellent'.

wendygs · 30-08-2005, 09:01

Do you know what criteria and evidence was used to reach these conclusions?

RichD · 30-08-2005, 09:06

"Resurface 30km of road each year"

They neglect to mention it's the SAME 30km of road each year....

cgksheff · 30-08-2005, 12:17

Quote:

Originally posted by wendygs
Do you know what criteria and evidence was used to reach these conclusions?

Read all about it here.

wendygs · 30-08-2005, 13:01

Thanks very much for that link cgk. The first few paragraphs are compelling reading.

wendygs · 31-08-2005, 05:35

Quote:

Originally posted by cgksheff
The Audit Commission has published its third comprehensive performance assessment of English councils. Local authorities were given scores of between 1 (the lowest possible score) and 4 (the highest) on key services - including housing, social services and education - and then ranked as one of excellent, good, fair, weak or poor.

Thursday December 16, 2004

Sheffield
Overall 2002 good
Overall 2003 good
Overall 2004 excellent
Council ability 4
Core service 3
Use of resources 4
Education 3
Social care adults 2
Social care children 3
Social care star rating **
Housing 3
Benefits 3
Environment 3
Libraries and leisure 3

By my reckoning, out of 150 councils, 41 scored 'excellent'.

cgksheff that sounds an amazing record; nearly ONE third of 150 councils have been scored as excellent on their key services. As this is by your reckoning, what information did you use to reach this conclusion?

cgksheff · 31-08-2005, 09:05

Quote:

Originally posted by wendygs
cgksheff that sounds an amazing record; nearly ONE third of 150 councils have been scored as excellent on their key services. As this is by your reckoning, what information did you use to reach this conclusion?

I took the information from the 'Society Guardian' website which showed the 2004 results for the 150 largest councils.
Of the 150 councils the assessments were:

excellent...41............27%
good........60............40%
fair..........33............22%
weak........15...........10%
poor..........1..............1%

I have assumed that their data is correct and have not cross checked with the CPA website.