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25-10-2010, 17:39
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At the weekend , I was walking up Crookes Rd in Broomhill and noticed that the university-owned building (I think its Pisgah House?) was still sitting empty.
After all the commotion concerning that building when the 'squatters' moved in, surely the university should have taken faster action to re-occupy or find a use for the building to justify their, quite ruthless, legal action??
What do other people think?? Should the council be taking more steps to find a future for all these empty properties in a time of spending cuts and rising numbers of people struggling to find a home?? What is so bad about squatting when a building has lied empty for years?
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25-10-2010, 17:42
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Maybe if they had a squatting charge it would be ok. You pay to live on a camp on a campsite. Also the inside of the building gets more run down and the cost to make the repairs are even higher. Just because I had a property and couldn't sort it straight away wouldn't mean I would want everyone living in it. If I did I would open a hostel.
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25-10-2010, 17:48
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I thought it was the council who had prevented the university from letting these buildings as a condition of the permission for the new student village. The university are having to sell them with covenants to stop students living there in the future.
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25-10-2010, 22:22
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It dosn`t matter how long a building has been stood empty , the fact is , the building is owned by someone , and they can do as they please with it with regards to leaving it empty.
Why the hell should someone be allowed to squat in someone else`s
property ?
If it dosnt belong to you , then you have NO right to be in there .
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25-10-2010, 22:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SY LOGISTICS
It dosn`t matter how long a building has been stood empty , the fact is , the building is owned by someone , and they can do as they please with it with regards to leaving it empty.
Why the hell should someone be allowed to squat in someone else`s
property ?
If it dosnt belong to you , then you have NO right to be in there .
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What about the owner of a semi detached house, who lets it fall into disrepair. Does the neighbour have any rights?
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25-10-2010, 22:26
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Originally Posted by sibon
What about the owner of a semi detached house, who lets it fall into disrepair. Does the neighbour have any rights?
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off topic ??
only the right to despair.
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26-10-2010, 00:10
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Originally Posted by sibon
What about the owner of a semi detached house, who lets it fall into disrepair. Does the neighbour have any rights?
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Contact Private Sector housing at the council and ask their advice.
If you are having problems due to the disrepair of a neighbouring property:
We can advise you of suitable action to take
We can get the owner to carry our repairs on a voluntary basis
Where appropriate, we can serve legal notices on the owner, requesting the work to be done
The City Team Assistant Manager is Linda Eshelby. You can contact the City Team on 0114 2734646 or email pshcityteam@sheffield.gov.uk
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-...wner-occupiers
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26-10-2010, 03:47
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It's not okay to steal something just because it's not being used.
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26-10-2010, 05:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lakey149
What is so bad about squatting when a building has lied empty for years?
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Others have dealt with the issue of ownership so I'll just add that the 'squatting experience' for owners generally comprises - criminal damage
- casual vandalism
- drug use
- prostitution
- intimidation
- police interest
and various others forms of criminal activity, the results of which are paid for heavily by the legal owner who has perfectly legitimate reasons for not occupying the property. Squatters aren't freedom fighters, they are usually criminals and it isn't the responsibility of building owners to help with their problems.
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26-10-2010, 06:51
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I'd quite like to buy a bit of a project, which by definition would be a bit run down and empty. I'd like to do it up over a period of time, as I'd want to eventually live in it. It would have to be a bit knackered in the mean time, as it should ideally be in a really nice, hence expensive, spot. So a knackered one would be all I could realisticly fund.
I don't think I'd appreciate squatters in the intervening time span.
I'm also kinda guessing that they wouldn't be paying council tax...
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26-10-2010, 06:58
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Originally Posted by Ms Macbeth
Contact Private Sector housing at the council and ask their advice.
If you are having problems due to the disrepair of a neighbouring property:
We can advise you of suitable action to take
We can get the owner to carry our repairs on a voluntary basis
Where appropriate, we can serve legal notices on the owner, requesting the work to be done
The City Team Assistant Manager is Linda Eshelby. You can contact the City Team on 0114 2734646 or email pshcityteam@sheffield.gov.uk
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-...wner-occupiers |
Do not contact Linda Eshelby as she is no longer the manager and would not be able to help you.
You need to contact Private Rented standards team who will put in a request for service (RFS) and assign the case to a patch area officer to investigate. This is also the case if you are having trouble with getting work done from a private landlord, or if a property is empty.
This department will handle any issues that are raised from a private dwelling. (Even owner occupied).
There number is 01142734680
Hope this helps. 
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26-10-2010, 07:03
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Originally Posted by clevercow
Do not contact Linda Eshelby as she is no longer the manager and would not be able to help you.
You need to contact Private Rented standards team who will put in a request for service (RFS) and assign the case to a patch area officer to investigate. This is also the case if you are having trouble with getting work done from a private landlord, or if a property is empty.
This department will handle any issues that are raised from a private dwelling. (Even owner occupied).
There number is 01142734680
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I hope so. I also think SCC need to update the website!
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26-10-2010, 07:05
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Yes the web site needs updating, hopefull wont take 2 long. 
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26-10-2010, 08:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sibon
What about the owner of a semi detached house, who lets it fall into disrepair. Does the neighbour have any rights?
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No, why should they?
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26-10-2010, 09:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sibon
What about the owner of a semi detached house, who lets it fall into disrepair. Does the neighbour have any rights?
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Im pretty sure the Neighbours wouldn`t want squatters next door either.
Would you ?
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26-10-2010, 09:29
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Originally Posted by js2012
No, why should they?
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They reason they should have rights is the same reason that they actually do have rights (see above links to the council).
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26-10-2010, 09:29
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To answer your question, because it isn't doesn't belong to you, thats what makes it bad, end of.
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26-10-2010, 12:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Others have dealt with the issue of ownership so I'll just add that the 'squatting experience' for owners generally comprises - criminal damage
- casual vandalism
- drug use
- prostitution
- intimidation
- police interest
and various others forms of criminal activity, the results of which are paid for heavily by the legal owner who has perfectly legitimate reasons for not occupying the property. Squatters aren't freedom fighters, they are usually criminals and it isn't the responsibility of building owners to help with their problems. |
true with some type of squatters, however not true for some, who will repair and maintain where they are staying, many examples scattered all over the uk and europe. I suppose you dont here about the good ones tho and just form opinion from the bad storys you here.
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26-10-2010, 12:30
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If the building is in Sheffield, is empty (and has been for 6 months) and has been left in disrepair, squat it.
Send a 50p postal order to Sheffield Homes and sign it, THE OCCUPIERS.
Put up legal notices on the building and notify the relevant authorities you are squatting.
Legislation is in place so that the building can be seized by the state and rented to tenants.
Just pay nominal rent of 50p a month till they seize the building.
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26-10-2010, 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chem1st
If the building is in Sheffield, is empty (and has been for 6 months) and has been left in disrepair, squat it.
Send a 50p postal order to Sheffield Homes and sign it, THE OCCUPIERS.
Put up legal notices on the building and notify the relevant authorities you are squatting.
Legislation is in place so that the building can be seized by the state and rented to tenants.
Just pay nominal rent of 50p a month till they seize the building.
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Ah, an armchair lawyer. Tell us, how will you begin your squat?
You'll be needing to commit trespass, criminal damage and unlawful occupation won't you? Not bad for your first minutes eh?
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