Why are Sheffield folk so judgemental towards Job Seeker claimants? - Page 3

harvey19 · 25-10-2010, 14:44

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Originally Posted by spiritangel1

Im sorry whats wrong with shelf stacking in Tesco???????????? my husbands a very intelligent man with pride in himself and he works in Tesco!!!!! he lost his job and was out of work for a few months and was taken on there,hes very good at his job and im very proud of him as he hates job but until he gets something else then he works, it brings in a wage and supports the household,we would never look down on anyone who works in whatever job its better than saying i cant get a job what rubbish!! its not the best wage and its part time but proves there are jobs to be had ,Thanks Laura i totally agree with you

Your husband has done what any self respecting person should do.
Good luck to him, he gets my respect.

spiritangel1 · 25-10-2010, 14:51

Thankyou,its awful hours,part time but on the plus side he can do overtime!!!usually sunday my day off lol, he had really good qualifications was an armed security officer ect,hes too old for the police,the sia licence is £500 about so hes still looking and he takes pride in what he does,no matter how much he dosent like it,people say oh i cant work that,this is part time,dont like working sundays well sorry its a job and thats it end of we all have to put up with a little inconvenience at times and work round it

dink · 25-10-2010, 14:51

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Originally Posted by alchemist

The presentation of a CV is NOT a good start to getting an interview, if that were the case my 2 would be at interviews all the time. They DO the research but all the research in the world is not going to stop the firm telling you you have no experience so tough luck.

Yes, you CAN volunteer to work a day a week for free assuming that the firm can be bothered to go through all the hoops that are needed to fulfill H&S and insurance requirements AND that they are honerable enough to take you seriously and not use you merely as slave labour and after 6 months say you are not wanted. Besides, employers DO NOT take into account volunteer work as it is not paid work and anyone can do it.

So if you got a CV handed in that spelt sheffield wrong and the persons own name wrong you would gladly put that on the same pile as people who havent made simple spelling mistakes

My second point is you would rather see a CV that has had 3 years of unemployment on it than looking and seeing that a person's has been bothered to get off their backside and volunteered to work in a similar field to gain alittle bit of experience???

50's chick · 25-10-2010, 14:59

I can understand that there are people out there who do want to work but are having trouble finding something but i also think there are far too many that milk the system and unfortunately that means everyone tends to get tarred with the same brush. i don't think it's the short term claimants that most people have a problem with, it is more the long term dole for life type i think.

signing on is degrading. i had to do it for a while after i lost my business due to illness and it was soul destroying. I couldn't cope with the idea of ever having to deal with the system again, so when i my illness came back 2 years later i carried on working even while having radiotherapy just so i didn't have to put myself through that. i accumulated as many hours as possible in the early stages of my illness, saving up as much as possible so that if it came to a point where i couldn't work i'd be able to survive.

i can't actually understand anyone who doesn't want to work as i think it is so important not just for your own self-esteem but to really be part of a fully functioning society ...if i ruled the world i think i'd remove the right to vote from anyone who is long tem unemployed and just refusing to work, harsh maybe but why should you have the right to decide on who governs our society if your not contributing.

anyway pack to the OP ...we can only judge on what we see and i think right now we're seeing too much of the jeremy kyle show type, and i for one get sick of working hard so that others can have a free ride. there are jobs out there and i've done everything from cleaning toilets to being the assistant editor of a magazine, you just have to want it bad enough to keep on trying even when life knocks you down. those that want to work will work.

harvey19 · 25-10-2010, 15:03

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Originally Posted by spiritangel1

Thankyou,its awful hours,part time but on the plus side he can do overtime!!!usually sunday my day off lol, he had really good qualifications was an armed security officer ect,hes too old for the police,the sia licence is £500 about so hes still looking and he takes pride in what he does,no matter how much he dosent like it,people say oh i cant work that,this is part time,dont like working sundays well sorry its a job and thats it end of we all have to put up with a little inconvenience at times and work round it

He has got pride, self respect, the respect of his family and is providing for his family.
What years ago would be called a real man.

spiritangel1 · 25-10-2010, 15:07

Thank you Harvey thats really nice,i for one am very proud of him no matter what job he does,and hes american lol came over here to marry me awwwwwww still dont understand why his qualifications dont stand over here but hey ho thats life.

Honeycomb · 25-10-2010, 18:40

It's quite simple; there aren't enough jobs to go round. There's a recession on at the moment and thats what happens. Ask any employment agency. I am in work but always keep an eye out for jobs advertised and I have NEVER known there to be so few vacancies.

I feel very sorry for young people who don't have any experience to offer - its really tough.

In answer to the OP - I don't know why SF is so hostile to the unemployed, unless its a case of "I'm alright Jack" smugness or just plain ignorance. But its very depressing.

Northrend · 25-10-2010, 18:42

Well I have just signed on after being in work for 17 years. It's only because I need help that I have signed up. If I didn't I would muddle thorugh on the little money that I have. I plan to be on JSA for as little time as possible trust me on that.

I have paid a Mahoosive amount of NI contributions so a few months help should not be something someone is judged on. Just my 2 penneth anyway.

Emskies · 25-10-2010, 19:58

ill never forget the day i saw someone collect money from the post office account..then go to the coop nextdoor... saw him come out 5mins later (i was waiting for a bus at bustop).. with a big bottle of cider and a set of cans.. classicccc...
its ppl like thiss.. that make genuine claimers look bad

cheapthrillz · 25-10-2010, 20:00

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Originally Posted by Mecky

How do you know people are from Sheffield? Just because they post on this forum?

yeah how silly of me, you're right, most forum members probably have no confection with Sheffield at all, they're probably all from Leeds.

wotsits · 25-10-2010, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Emskies

ill never forget the day i saw someone collect money from the post office account..then go to the coop nextdoor... saw him come out 5mins later (i was waiting for a bus at bustop).. with a big bottle of cider and a set of cans.. classicccc...
its ppl like thiss.. that make genuine claimers look bad

Surely it's up to him what he spends his money on. What about ciggerettes magazines etc. How do you know he wasn't alcohol reliant, that does have health implications from forced withdrawal. I see people spending benefit on lots of things but you don't see the ones spending on Sky TV as they are in the house. Who are you to say genuine claimer.

Emskies · 25-10-2010, 20:08

so should we pay taxes , so sum1 can go get their fixx of alcohol.. noo

max · 25-10-2010, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Emskies

ill never forget the day i saw someone collect money from the post office account..then go to the coop nextdoor... saw him come out 5mins later (i was waiting for a bus at bustop).. with a big bottle of cider and a set of cans.. classicccc...
its ppl like thiss.. that make genuine claimers look bad

Why? When I was on the dole back in 1975 I used to spend my money on beer & fags. I paid my rent, not necessarily on time, ate at least twice a day, posted job applications and in the weeks when there was some money left over I'd buy cider.

Now I can afford to drive a car I look at people at bus stops, like you, and am not judgemental so what gives you the right?

cheapthrillz · 25-10-2010, 20:15

What you mean that the unfortunate people out of work actually enjoyed themselves? Surely they should have been left to die in squalor?

chem1st · 25-10-2010, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Emskies

so should we pay taxes , so sum1 can go get their fixx of alcohol.. noo

An alcoholic who'll spend most of his money on alcohol, due to loss leaders at supermarkets can actually pay more in tax, than they get on dole.

Which is quite an achievement.

anywebsite · 25-10-2010, 20:32

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Originally Posted by chem1st

An alcoholic who'll spend most of his money on alcohol, due to loss leaders at supermarkets can actually pay more in tax, than they get on dole.

Which is quite an achievement.

It's the ones that spend all their dole on basic foods, children's clothes & books who're a real drain on tax money

chem1st · 25-10-2010, 20:35

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Originally Posted by anywebsite

It's the ones that spend all their dole on basic foods, children's clothes & books who're a real drain on tax money

People on the dole pay the TV license

wotsits · 25-10-2010, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Emskies

so should we pay taxes , so sum1 can go get their fixx of alcohol.. noo

Your exactly the type of person this thread should be titled after. You don't know this mans situation at all. How do you know he hasn't paid taxes etc. You are judgemental and have no foundation for it, infact would go as far to say you are ignorant. I hope you have to claim one day and people judge you wrongly for it.

wotsits · 25-10-2010, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Emskies

I think SOME people have forgot the point of my post.. this post is asking why we are judgemental.. So i give my opinion why i sometimes can be judgemental towards to those claiming Jobseekers..

People pay taxes all there lifes for stuff like this(dont bother posting stuff about paying for NHS n immgrants cus i knowww..) for people to take for granted of there benefits *FOR FREE* (so to speak) with never having intensions of getting a job.

Do you look at people at bustops? great for you, i dont drive, i dont want to drive, thats my lifestyle choice DIMWIT.. wow u can afford to drive like thousands of other people.. what an acheivement.

But you don't know anyones situation do you ?. You sound so intelligent. DIMWIT can't you have a valid argument without resorting to name calling.

anywebsite · 25-10-2010, 20:45

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Originally Posted by chem1st

People on the dole pay the TV license

Not all of them & you don't even have to, if you don't have a TV & read books instead.