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blahblah! · 10-10-2010, 18:28

yes, bjj is relatively new, so when people are considering getting into it, looking for info and being affronted by every club being offensive about every other club in the area, you must know that puts people off! as for the comment in question, surely that is a matter of opinion, incapable as anybody is of proving or disproving the fact? as far as i can tell it would be expected that gracie barra have won more comps etc than ekbjj north as they have existed as a club for a hell of a lot longer... or am i mistaken?

bigstew · 10-10-2010, 18:37

To be honest claims of being the best are always invidious as it is subjective. Personally I train at the forge GB Sheffield and cannot imagine a place I would be happier or that would have developed me into a medal winner. Also alot if what makes a club great is the people and I feel we have a world class coaching setup and some awesome team mates which again ranks it as number one for me personally

Carcass · 10-10-2010, 18:38

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Originally Posted by RossP

Also after watching this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOUauhxWHAI

In a thread discussing BJJ Yorkshire/Derbyshire by the BJJ police im not really sure what Steve is teaching anymore...

LOL! Why can't we all run around holding hands?
Although the 3-man clotheline is becoming a popular technique on the street, so that definitely has real-world relevance.

RossP · 10-10-2010, 18:38

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Originally Posted by blahblah!

yes, bjj is relatively new, so when people are considering getting into it, looking for info and being affronted by every club being offensive about every other club in the area, you must know that puts people off! as for the comment in question, surely that is a matter of opinion, incapable as anybody is of proving or disproving the fact? as far as i can tell it would be expected that gracie barra have won more comps etc than ekbjj north as they have existed as a club for a hell of a lot longer... or am i mistaken?

Went back and read through the thread and could not find 1 single offensive statement about EKBJJ, you keep saying everyone is being offensive, but disagreeing and arguing with a WILD statement like that is just my opinion and that of the others who have posted.

Also no one on here has saying they are looking for info on BJJ has been affronted in any way and again NO offensive comments have been made. Maybe slow down with that accusation. These discussion have gotten much more heated in the past, i think like you even mention people should be allowed to express their opinions.

The Facts are simple and can be proven really if you knew the history of the situation you would understand. Ask the instructors at the other clubs where they started or used to train. Im not looking to argue with you as like you say you are a newbie to the sport and i cant be bothered to go back over every argument and the history of BJJ in sheffield, if you search on the forum i'm sure you could find more information to bring you up to date.

As far as i know EKBJJ north are a new club but the main people are not, they have been competing for a while and the competition history and medal numbers speak for themselves...

blahblah! · 10-10-2010, 19:03

i do apologise if i didn't make myself entirely clear... as i have already said, i have researched clubs both on here and on individual sites so i have read up on instructors and histories, and have read a hell of a lot of bitching between clubs!
my idea of taking part in this sport is to train with descent fun people who are there to enjoy their health and friends. i may at some point decide to enter competitions, but having 2 small kids and a full time job i know where my priorities are. having a medal or not doesn't make me any less dedicated or my instructors any less impressive, it means i will always put my family ahead of a sport.
personally, i respect your opinion, and the fact that i am a newbie shouldn't make my opinion any less important or viable.

RossP · 10-10-2010, 19:11

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Originally Posted by blahblah!

i do apologise if i didn't make myself entirely clear... as i have already said, i have researched clubs both on here and on individual sites so i have read up on instructors and histories, and have read a hell of a lot of bitching between clubs!
my idea of taking part in this sport is to train with descent fun people who are there to enjoy their health and friends. i may at some point decide to enter competitions, but having 2 small kids and a full time job i know where my priorities are. having a medal or not doesn't make me any less dedicated or my instructors any less impressive, it means i will always put my family ahead of a sport.
personally, i respect your opinion, and the fact that i am a newbie shouldn't make my opinion any less important or viable.

No need to apologise, maybe its my mistake. Glad you did your research and are happy where you are.

You seem to have a right idea of 'taking part' in the sport.

Now the medal statement i never said you were less dedicated or that it would make your instructors less impressive and wasn't implying as such.

I never said i didn't respect you're opinion just that (at the time) thinking you didn't know the situational history i didn't want to argue with you for no reason over points which have been covered in much more detail and by prettier people than me.

I think you have taken a lot of the posts the wrong way, as i said before i haven't said or seen anything offensive written here towards EKBJJ, not knowing you i don't know if you are aware i know Eddie Kone, Mark, John, Steve M and Tim and get along with them all.

The main point is for everyone to go out train hard, have fun and to progress in the sport and to also help the sport progress forward as it has so well over the past 10yrs i have been blessed to be involved in it.

blahblah! · 10-10-2010, 19:23

as of yet i haven't been forced to make a decision as to where i will train permanently. most of those you named, as well as others, have been very supportive and understanding of the fact that everyone is looking for something different when making that decision!
maybe i'm wrong, but as far as i'm aware steve m is no longer associated with eddie, mark and john (ekbjjnorth)?
i totally agree with your main point and look forward to meeting and training with those of greater experience that myself.

JimJitsu · 10-10-2010, 19:26

de·fini·tive (dē fin′ə tiv, di-)

adjective

1.that decides or settles in a final way; decisive; conclusive: a definitive answer
2.most nearly complete and accurate; authoritative: a definitive biography
3.serving to define; limiting or distinguishing precisely: definitive details
4.designating or of a postage stamp for regular use, issued for an unlimited period

hmmmmmm

blahblah! · 10-10-2010, 19:33

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Originally Posted by JimJitsu

de·fini·tive (dē fin′ə tiv, di-)

adjective

1.that decides or settles in a final way; decisive; conclusive: a definitive answer
2.most nearly complete and accurate; authoritative: a definitive biography
3.serving to define; limiting or distinguishing precisely: definitive details
4.designating or of a postage stamp for regular use, issued for an unlimited period

hmmmmmm

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

RossP · 10-10-2010, 19:35

I would hope you are never forced into making a decision, Alot of our guys visit and train at various other Gyms with Highly respected teams and coaches. You should be able to train where you like, obviously when you find a Team that suits you the most whether its convenience of travel, price or Level & Quality of tuition.... or whatever then most people will stick with that.

You'll find most instructor are very understanding when getting a new student in, but you are looking for should be the most important factor in your decision.

Neither Steve or Tim are EKBJJ affiliates maybe i should have stated that they were separate but i thought most would comprehend the difference as most people already know this.

But it was in reference to claims i/we were being offensive to every other BJJ club mentioned.

Personally i think you came on this thread to defend your club, You registered just for this thread and with the name 'BlahBlah!' and came out making accusations of abuse towards your club which were not warranted and you cant back up. You have calmed down in the last few posts and hope that pattern continues.

As now we are discussing BJJ which is what i'm happy to do all day long.

My advice would be train everywhere you can, We did not have the luxury of numerous clubs within an hour much less 5 hours drive of sheffield back in the day.

JimJitsu · 10-10-2010, 19:38

BJJ Teams with the most Gold Medals

Team Titles
Gracie Barra 164
Alliance 89
Gracie Humaita 76
Nova Uniao 58
Brasa 35
Carlson Gracie Team 27
Brazilian Top Team 21

(Data is aggregated from several sources of predominant BJJ tournaments including IBJJF tournament results from 1996 - 2009)

RossP · 10-10-2010, 19:41

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Originally Posted by blahblah!

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

Grammar is not a matter of opinion... unfortunately

JimJitsu · 10-10-2010, 19:44

anyway ... wasn't brazillian jiujitsu all about teams challanging each other and other martial arts? so lets not get all "british" and understand the original culture of the sport

BJJ has always been about proving its effectiveness in a combat situation

JimJitsu · 10-10-2010, 19:46

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Originally Posted by blahblah!

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

what a "definative" personal opinion? lmao

JimJitsu · 10-10-2010, 19:52

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Originally Posted by blahblah!

... and maybe those who train there do think that way. again, it's a matter of opinion.

ok then ... maybe add

[in our honest opinion]

Even you can't be stupid enough to know that if you claim to be number 1 / the best / most authorative or whatever its going to be challenged, thats life

In business, sport or whatever ... if tesco say they are number 1 ... asda dont stand by and go ... ok ... yes well of course you are

and if you do make that claim ... you can't start crying if someone questions it? if you don't like the response, don't make the claim? simples

blahblah! · 10-10-2010, 20:13

nobody is denying a challenge is necessary! as someone who is still trying different places, it is reading these challenges that sparks interest! if the people who train there believe it to be better than any where else are they not permitted to refer to it as definative??? that is personal opinion!!!

rossp: i asked only about steve m as i am aware there was previously an association between him and mark that ended a little awkwardly. i am quite able to comprehend such things, but i would rather educate myself with fact than hearsay!!! as for defending my club, i think i have clearly stated i have no club. i am new, as in a few weeks, and have no intention of alienating myself from one club in favour of another. i only wish to train to the best of my ability where ever i decide is best for me!

my grammar may not be perfect, and believe me it hurts so much to be told that, but at least i am willing to look beyond an iffy decision where wording is concerned and ask if the place is actually any good.

RossP · 10-10-2010, 20:27

Again going back to being snooty and trying to be witty when i am being more than polite to you about all this.

Steve and EKBJJ are no longer affiliated, if you already knew this then why ask me or mention at all for that matter.

Well ok then you came on here just to argue, as i stated for the previous reasons mentioned except the defending your club, well you must just like to sit behind a keyboard and talk trash, i don't know.
As i've already said you came on and posted about made up abuse thrown at other clubs which i still cant find, can you?

I was trying to be polite but it seems its no use with you. The way you have carried on it looks like you have a side and are arguing for it whatever that side may be.

I didn't comment on you're personal grammar did i, i commented that the fact that Grammar is in existence is not people opinion as you argued in a earlier post.

Maybe if you stopped reading this thread like its a fight and more of a discussion you would understand my posts in the way they are meant and not in the 'aggressive' or 'rude' manner in which you seem to be interpreting them.

P.S Big LOLs at any challenges happening between clubs in sheffield, no one outside of GB would show up.

bigstew · 10-10-2010, 20:29

How I see it is that you find a place that suits you, personally I have never been happier with a team, coach or gym as I am with GB Sheffield. The fact that we have a number of people now from other gyms who cane to us speaks volumes but at the end of the day plough your own furrow and find what suits you, I did it and am happy I wish the same to anyone else.

blahblah! · 10-10-2010, 20:34

[QUOTE=JimJitsu;6769450]

Even you can't be stupid enough to know that if you claim to be number 1 / the best / most authorative or whatever its going to be challenged, thats life [QUOTE]

my apologies, thought you would have understood this was the challenge comment i was referring to

the_rage · 10-10-2010, 20:35

333 people have looked at this post.

As a guess, 100 have at least checked out the website.

Brill