Standing up on a bus,should it be allowed?

David Tommy · 24-07-2010, 06:17

Just wondering why its allowed to be able to stand up on a bus.and yet when I'm driving a car I have to wear my seat belt or I get fined!!

Grandad.Malky · 24-07-2010, 06:28

Good point but most buses don’t have seat belts though.

grafikhaus74 · 24-07-2010, 07:05

Yes, but they obviously should have. As ever, 'elf n safety turn a blind eye to large comapnies.

But think it through. Can you imagine if all bus passengers had to 'belt up' before the bus drove off? Christ, it takes most of the idiots enough time to rummage in their bags, find their purse, find the right change/bus pass, ask if the bus is going to Leeds etc. Average journey time from Sheffield centre to outlying area? One week, minimum.

waggler · 24-07-2010, 18:42

i say no---wen the driver brakes u go forward it as happened to me i nearly got hurt

melthebell · 24-07-2010, 18:45

i say they should jam em in those luggage thingies on the outside of coaches too

Vague_Boy · 24-07-2010, 19:10

People have been standing up on buses (and trams) for many decades.

Somehow, against all odds, they seem to have survived.

hitch_1980 · 24-07-2010, 19:12

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Originally Posted by grafikhaus74

Yes, but they obviously should have. As ever, 'elf n safety turn a blind eye to large comapnies.

But think it through. Can you imagine if all bus passengers had to 'belt up' before the bus drove off? Christ, it takes most of the idiots enough time to rummage in their bags, find their purse, find the right change/bus pass, ask if the bus is going to Leeds etc. Average journey time from Sheffield centre to outlying area? One week, minimum.

You must be one of those idiots in a car which make the buses brake suddenly....

horribleblob · 24-07-2010, 19:14

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Originally Posted by grafikhaus74

...Can you imagine if all bus passengers had to 'belt up' before the bus drove off? ...

Folk seem to 'belt up' quick enough on a plane, so why not on a bus? Mind you, if Michael O'Leary gets his way, there'll be standing passengers on RyanAir flights soon.

Berberis · 24-07-2010, 20:28

Wearing a seat belt on a minibus, bus or coach
If you are travelling on a minibus you must wear a seat belt if one is fitted (or a child restraint if available). On a bus or coach, if you are aged 14 or over you must wear a seat belt if fitted. Regulations requiring children aged three to 13 years to use seat belts (or child restraints if available) in buses and coaches will be brought forward as soon as possible.

Ref: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022064

melthebell · 24-07-2010, 20:42

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Originally Posted by serapis

Wearing a seat belt on a minibus, bus or coach
If you are travelling on a minibus you must wear a seat belt if one is fitted (or a child restraint if available). On a bus or coach, if you are aged 14 or over you must wear a seat belt if fitted. Regulations requiring children aged three to 13 years to use seat belts (or child restraints if available) in buses and coaches will be brought forward as soon as possible.

Ref: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022064

our buses barely have engines let alone seat belts

horribleblob · 24-07-2010, 20:48

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Originally Posted by melthebell

our buses barely have engines let alone seat belts

But the horses do have bridles, right?

chem1st · 24-07-2010, 20:58

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Originally Posted by horribleblob

Folk seem to 'belt up' quick enough on a plane, so why not on a bus? Mind you, if Michael O'Leary gets his way, there'll be standing passengers on RyanAir flights soon.

Given the amount of legroom available currently, some of us actually are!

If standing seats have enough leg room for lanky people then I can see it being preferred to sitting (awkward standing in a confided space).

horribleblob · 24-07-2010, 21:08

You're not wrong there, chem1st. On my last flight, I'd have been more comfortable in the overhead lockers if it hadn't been full of hold luggage masquerading as cabin baggage.

cressida · 24-07-2010, 22:17

No seat belts on buses or trains even for children, seat belts on coaches though so I should think there are seat belts on school buses

ukstudent · 25-07-2010, 12:08

When you are on a bus you can stand up because you are a passenger.

When you are driving a car, you are driving.

Unless you have a lorry I doubt you would be able to stand up in your car!

melthebell · 25-07-2010, 12:09

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Originally Posted by ukstudent

When you are on a bus you can stand up because you are a passenger.

When you are driving a car, you are driving.

unless your a passenger

Redyam · 25-07-2010, 12:15

If a bus full of people hits a car, the bus passengers will hardly feel a thing because the bus is so heavy. The car driver will however feel the full force as the weight is so much less.

It is the principle of conservation of momentum.

mass x velocity before collision = mass x velocity after collision.

The bigger mass of the bus converts into a bigger velocity for the car after the collision.

melthebell · 25-07-2010, 12:16

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Originally Posted by Redyam

If a bus full of people hits a car, the bus passengers will hardly feel a thing because the bus is so heavy. The car driver will however feel the full force as the weight is so much less.

It is the principle of conservation of momentum.

mass x velocity before collision = mass x velocity after collision.

The bigger mass of the bus converts into a bigger velocity for the car after the collision.

*eyes glaze over*

Berberis · 25-07-2010, 15:41

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Originally Posted by Redyam

If a bus full of people hits a car, the bus passengers will hardly feel a thing because the bus is so heavy. The car driver will however feel the full force as the weight is so much less.

It is the principle of conservation of momentum.

mass x velocity before collision = mass x velocity after collision.

The bigger mass of the bus converts into a bigger velocity for the car after the collision.

What if said bus swerves to avoid a collision with a car and heads down an embankment?

What if a bus hits another bus? What if a bus hits a lorry or even a house? These are all just as plausible scenario compared to your "bus hits car" example.

Rupert_Baehr · 25-07-2010, 15:51

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Originally Posted by David Tommy

Just wondering why its allowed to be able to stand up on a bus.and yet when I'm driving a car I have to wear my seat belt or I get fined!!

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Originally Posted by serapis

Wearing a seat belt on a minibus, bus or coach
If you are travelling on a minibus you must wear a seat belt if one is fitted (or a child restraint if available). On a bus or coach, if you are aged 14 or over you must wear a seat belt if fitted. Regulations requiring children aged three to 13 years to use seat belts (or child restraints if available) in buses and coaches will be brought forward as soon as possible.

Ref: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022064

Perhaps there should be collars suspended from the ceilings of the buses for use by standing passengers.
- If the bus driver is a bit heavy on the brakes, he might be able to do a Barzan.