[Titanic99]

Welcome news to see a small fall in Unemployment, hopefully people will realise the potential for it going to over 3.5 million if the Tories get hold of power again.

I particularly like this comment from the economist:

“In previous recessions it took years for unemployment to stop rising, but that hasn't happened this time."
Mr Buckley admitted previous predictions of the unemployment rate reaching 10% now looked unrealistic.”

Good job we didn’t have a Tory Government this time around then!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8469648.stm

[HeadingNorth]

Originally Posted by Titanic99

Welcome news to see a small fall in Unemployment, hopefully people will realise the potential for it going to over 3.5 million if the Tories get hold of power again.

That potential being, of course, zero. We don't now have a huge, bloated nationalised industry that needs cutting out.

[Titanic99]

Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

That potential being, of course, zero. We don't now have a huge, bloated nationalised industry that needs cutting out.

I don't know, most people are expecting savage job cuts in Public Services!

[Grandad.Malky]

Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

That potential being, of course, zero. We don't now have a huge, bloated nationalised industry that needs cutting out.

Bit of an home goal as yet another British institution is taken over by a foreign company.

[HeadingNorth]

Originally Posted by Titanic99

I don't know, most people are expecting savage job cuts in Public Services!

It is true that Labour have bloated the public services, but they've only had 12 years to do it - unlike in 1979, when we had half a century or more of disastrous economic policy to overturn.

[JFKvsNixon]

Originally Posted by Malky

Bit of an home goal as yet another British institution is taken over by a foreign company.

It was a british institution that had over 50% of foreign share holders before the take over.

[JFKvsNixon]

Originally Posted by Titanic99

I don't know, most people are expecting savage job cuts in Public Services!

People are expecting savage job cut under who ever wins the next election.

[RonJeremy]

the fall in unemployment is a freak blip in the statistics due to young people not even trying to find work or sign - they are just going into education. This awful government has made a bloated lazy public sector that needs thinning and paring to a sensible productive level.

[Daven]

If the Thatcher years are anything to go by we are in for a very rocky ride if the Tories get into No.10 - Camoron and his crew will devastate the NHS and anyone who can't afford private health care will have to hope for the best.

[hard2miss]

They will be tweaking the figures ready for elections.

I bet theres the same amount on or more and they have just signed people to courses or put them on some new new deal or something.

The next figures to come out will be to show a drop in people entering the country and that a load have gone back.

[andyofborg]

Originally Posted by JFKvsNixon

It was a british institution that had over 50% of foreign share holders before the take over.

and most of its employees are in foreign countries

[Vague_Boy]

A couple of items of note from this BBC report (link)

The number of people in part-time employment increased by 99,000 over the quarter to reach a record high of 7.71 million.

More than a million of these were working part-time because they could not find a full-time job - the highest figure since records began in 1992, according to the ONS.

The unemployment figures do not include those on incapacity benefit, which has tripled since 1979 (700,000 then, over 2.5 million as of 1997 and increasing steadily ever since).

Are we getting sicker as a nation, or are we just much easier to fool these days?

I wouldn't wish to suggest for a moment that successive governments have used incapacity benefits as a way of disguising the true state of unemployment in this country (which must now be around the 5 million mark). No, it must be that we're getting sicker as a nation.

So.... if that is the case, where is the NHS going wrong?

[Urien]

The government are still creating public sector non-jobs.

What kind of fool believes in ‘official’ statistics anyway? No doubt this ‘government’ will engineer a boom in the run-up to the election

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[auto98uk]

Originally Posted by HeadingNorth

That potential being, of course, zero. We don't now have a huge, bloated nationalised industry that needs cutting out.

We also have no manufacturing because of her.

[alchresearch]

Why do people have to cite Thatcher or the 80's in their sad little arguments against the Tories?

The world has changed a lot in the 20 years since this time. Its just a shame your blinkered opinions haven't.

[wellyman]

Originally Posted by hard2miss

They will be tweaking the figures ready for elections.

I bet theres the same amount on or more and they have just signed people to courses or put them on some new new deal or something.

The next figures to come out will be to show a drop in people entering the country and that a load have gone back.

2 1/2 million others fall into the categories.

Working short time to avoid redundancies
Working part time because no full time jobs are available.
Laid off on minimum wage by a company with no work.
Signed on as a student because no jobs were available.


It is perhaps not a huge surprise that there is one period where unemplyment shows a temporary dip. It is of course the period immediately following the start of the student year.

[biotechpete]

Originally Posted by Vague_Boy

I wouldn't wish to suggest for a moment that successive governments have used incapacity benefits as a way of disguising the true state of unemployment in this country (which must now be around the 5 million mark). No, it must be that we're getting sicker as a nation.

So.... if that is the case, where is the NHS going wrong?

They were reporting on Radio 4 yesterday that the economically inactive is now over 8 million. Some of the decline in the figures is apparently due to people giving up looking for work so not claiming job seekers.

[brianthedog]

Originally Posted by alchresearch

Why do people have to cite Thatcher or the 80's in their sad little arguments against the Tories?

The world has changed a lot in the 20 years since this time. Its just a shame your blinkered opinions haven't.

Well put.

12 years ago Labour looked like a viable government. Now look at them. A lot can happen in 12 years so why cite examples of 20 years ago? Besides, I think Thatcher did an excellent job, personally.

[nightrider]

Originally Posted by Titanic99

I don't know, most people are expecting savage job cuts in Public Services!

That will happen whoever wins - the money has run out, no way to pay the salaries any more.

[grafikhaus74]

Originally Posted by wellyman

2 1/2 million others fall into the categories.

Working short time to avoid redundancies
Working part time because no full time jobs are available.
Laid off on minimum wage by a company with no work.
Signed on as a student because no jobs were available.

And they still haven't counted the 9000 losing their jobs at Bosch (South Wales)

Or those on Incapacity Benefit that has risen to 3 million.

Or the £30 a week alcopop bribe they're giving to 16-18 year olds as there's no jobs for them.

Or the endless New Deal scams designed purely to encourage people to stop claiming.

But still, if you believe anything that comes out of Brown's mouth, and if you believe an incoming Govt. will have to make savage public sector cuts to clean up Brown's/Darling's mess, well it's 'cos they're 'Nasty Tories' of course!