Why wont the RSPCA do anything??

PrincessKate · 29-12-2009, 15:49

I know of some one who has several dogs, numbers change on a weekly basis.

Its in a small village, not going to mention the name, and a smaller house. Fair size garden but dogs dont get this garden.

The "animals"

Dogs

Several times it has been heard and recorded of the animals been hit/beaten if they dont do as there told. Mainly for toilet reasons.

It has been observed that one certain dog wouldnt go to the toilet when told to, so was hit. and then led to small pebbles been thrown at him/her to make him stay in a certain spot. This continued untill the dog went to the toilet.

Other dogs are so thin its unhealthy. thin to the stage you can see all there bones! They are left out in the cold for lengths of time that are too long. Making the dogs shakle/shiver with cold!

at the moment there are 6+ dogs with this person/people

at one stage there was 12+

RSPCA have been contacted several times, been out only to find nothing wrong. They have had the recordings played to them and said they can tell its animals been hit, but still do nothing?

Its quite upsetting when nothings getting done!

One reason we have heard been used is the person works for a "local rescue centre" and cares for there animals by taking them home as foster dogs.

Why does this give them the right to treat them like this?

RSPCA have been told PLENTY of times to realise that somethings not right, but still do nothing at all!

Its as if they dont care.

What else can be done?

eeejay174 · 29-12-2009, 16:24

is it possible, if things are this bad, to find out which rescue centre is dropping these animals off? and take them the evidence? Could you ring round the local rescues and advise them that you are unsure if this person fosters animals for (....), but you need to advise of possible care issues if they do foster for (....) and that you have supporting evidence, Are the animals this thin because they have been badly treated prior to fostering?? It may be that need advisement, maybe even a friendly letter dropped through their letterbox??? The problem is, if they can explain the weight issues away with 'poorly treated dogs', and as long as food and shelter are evident when the inspector calls and they leave a note of advise,, theres not much else they can do,

PrincessKate · 29-12-2009, 17:18

the person works for the centre. it is a well known centre also.

that route has been taken, some one has already reported the person in question to the centre she works for! not a volunteer!

But do they care? Nope

eeejay174 · 29-12-2009, 17:22

maybe if they go in with evidence that would help??

PrincessKate · 29-12-2009, 17:24

they dont care. its been done more than once.

Toasty · 29-12-2009, 20:04

Throwing stones at the dog until it goes to the toilet? Thats barbaric! Whats wrong with some people? They dont deserve to have pets in the first place and should be given the same treatment they give the animals, at the very least, in my opinion.

Rainrescue · 29-12-2009, 20:05

I think if enough pressure is put onto the RSPCA - then they do do something about it. Its sad that this sort of thing is happening and that you are raising the awareness that it is, but its falling on deaf ears.

These poor things have nobody if a concerned member of the public - reports them to the rspca and still nobody comes to either educate/watch/warn/?other the owners to make them aware that they are being watched.

The Greenspot, Fullstop campaign that was brought in for the NSPCC made us all think we should report cruelty of anything. If I can help in anyway - let me know I have pm'd you - not that I have any say with the inspectors at all - but maybe if a few people do report it - it will increase the pressure on the owners.

Any chance of video evidence?

PrincessKate · 29-12-2009, 21:23

I "could" get video evidence but not of them beating/hitting as they wont do it when some ones around.

Its a semi detatched hosue and can be heard.

Its been reported by most of the street, on a daily basis. When i last reported it, an RSPCA Van turned up within 2 hours.

Walked in with a note pad 25 minutes later

we here though the window "Sorry to have bothered you and taken your time, everything seems fine"

She must be hiding the dogs out of sight some how, as its far from fine!

Moonbird · 29-12-2009, 21:52

The dogs mayor may not have already been thin before they got there if they have been kennelled for a while before they were fostered (just a thought).
I think that if the RSPCA cannot act then the rescue concerned should be concentrated on, it is a disgrace if they know that their dogs are being treat in this way but do nothing to help them, I would consider contacting the rescue again and telling them if they don't sort out the situation then you will tell the story to the Star and let them investigate, I don't see what choice you would have if nothing else works.

eeejay174 · 29-12-2009, 22:27

yep thats a good one, a threat with an investigation by the star would also prompt the rspca to take up greater involvement as well

kankel · 30-12-2009, 07:50

have you tried the dog warden?

muckymurphy · 30-12-2009, 08:17

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Originally Posted by DLWOX

I know of some one who has several dogs, numbers change on a weekly basis.

Its in a small village, not going to mention the name, and a smaller house. Fair size garden but dogs dont get this garden.

The "animals"

Dogs

Several times it has been heard and recorded of the animals been hit/beaten if they dont do as there told. Mainly for toilet reasons.

It has been observed that one certain dog wouldnt go to the toilet when told to, so was hit. and then led to small pebbles been thrown at him/her to make him stay in a certain spot. This continued untill the dog went to the toilet.

Other dogs are so thin its unhealthy. thin to the stage you can see all there bones! They are left out in the cold for lengths of time that are too long. Making the dogs shakle/shiver with cold!

at the moment there are 6+ dogs with this person/people

at one stage there was 12+

RSPCA have been contacted several times, been out only to find nothing wrong. They have had the recordings played to them and said they can tell its animals been hit, but still do nothing?

Its quite upsetting when nothings getting done!

One reason we have heard been used is the person works for a "local rescue centre" and cares for there animals by taking them home as foster dogs.

Why does this give them the right to treat them like this?

RSPCA have been told PLENTY of times to realise that somethings not right, but still do nothing at all!

Its as if they dont care.

What else can be done?

read my threads to see my views on the rspca and why i am not surprised at what you are experiencing.
the rspca are only interested in activities that make money for them, as you can see from my previous post on this subject. (you have read it haven't you?)
the rspca along with so called council dog wardens are probably responsible for these dogs ending up in a so called rescue centre in the first place so they will not take action against people who are perpetuating their obnoxious regime.
if the council spent less time rounding up escaped friendly family pets and then making unreasonable ransom demands for their return, i estimate that they could halve the supposed stray dog problem.
the rspca spend more effort exterminating pets rather than helping them, unless they are on telly of course, then they portray themselves as the caring people they want to be seen as.
dont forget YOU are paying for these services.
i have never seen any of these people around when the foxes are busy decimating the local cat population.
if i am wrong - prove it!
but i promise you now-my experiences tell it as it is.

HappiDayz · 30-12-2009, 21:58

Threaten the RSPCA with a report to a local paper. The RSPCA are (wish I could swear on here) poo!! Only time they want to do anything is when the media is involved!!

I would send an email to the RSPCA, the dogs trust and the star!! Dogs trust Are very good at offering advice.
Also copies the star into the email.

willman · 30-12-2009, 22:08

It's simple really - you have no PROOF. Just allegations of suspected abuse.

Rainrescue · 02-01-2010, 23:19

If this is genuine and there is a problem - then things can and should be done.

Obviously - it has to be borne in mind that if this person has so many dogs and they work at a rescue centre - odds are they see some terrible terrible things - and maybe the dogs they are bringing into foster will be in horrendous conditions - that only being in a house environment can put some weight on them or keep them warm or less stressed.

Is that the reason why the dogs look so bad. Its not this persons own dogs - but dogs they take home to look after, turn round, and then rehome via tha rescue?

Re barking and screaming - again - lots of dogs together will make all sorts of noises - and no doubt anyone trying to look after that volume of dogs is fighting a very hard battle. If they already work at a rescue centre - no doubt they will be dealing with the neglect and abuse that people dish out to animals all day long - and so are maybe trying to help - but it may not be the right way.

I'm not sticking up for any type of cruelty - if something is cruel or neglectful - it has to be raised - and stopped. However, maybe there is a need to look into what and why and then sort it?

Please pm me with who this complaint has been raised to at the rescue concerned so that we can pursue through the proper channels. No rescue would allow cruelty or that people are thinking cruel things are being done to animals - and we may be able to resolve the problem or issue.

You may be able to get some of the conerned neighbours to foster some of the abused dogs - which would take the pressure off this concerned animal worker?