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08-12-2009, 17:15
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Originally Posted by technophobe
Mas bro lass
Thanks for your sarcastic and very presumptious, inarticulate statement. However, you are not in full possession of the facts and clearly dont know the area. I refer to my earlier post on hideous comments. If you dont have anything constructive to say, go on a different post where people just want an argument. This thread is for debate only.
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If you want this more blunt then you have caused your dog unnecessary suffering by not being a responsible owner. You only want people to comment that will shilly shally around you to make you feel better. Grow up and get yourself to dog training classes and learn about dogs and not namby pamby human beings.
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08-12-2009, 17:47
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
I can see this from both sides, its not on to let a dog run up to one on a lead but dogs do tend to have a mind of their own at times, so what I would suggest is that the OP does a lot of work on the recall of her lurcher, and now that the owner of Tyson knows what he is capable of that they should muzzle him so that it can not happen again.
An offer towards the vet bill probably wouldn't go amiss either even if if just a token gesture as you are not blameless in all of this.
I do hope that the OP's dog is not too traumatised by this it is a pity for a nice dog to be ruined which can happen all to easily in these circumstances!
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Can i just say about what i highlighted above, any dog is capable of this, no matter what the breed and he did nothing wrong, why muzzel his dog??
he had it on a lead under control, ive took my dogs out before and had other people dogs run upto them sniffing them whilst there owner stands and shouts them and the dog doesnt go back, my dogs are labradors and soft as a brush and my daughter even plays with them without issue, never shown any agreesion, but they werent happy with another dog in there face and snapped and growled at it, should i muzzel my dog??
Should the dog that came running upto them be muzzeled?, as this dog was the one that cause the situation!
NO, people should have responsibility and have there dogs on leads, some people are scared of dogs and what is to say that this dog would go running upto a child and scare it to death!
Id be heartbroken if my dog got injured and i hope he makes a speedy recovery, but maybe keep him on the lead when other dogs are around, and especially at night when you cant see where they are!
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08-12-2009, 18:09
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Originally Posted by pem123
As you placed a full stop at the end of your outburst, there was no need to write the words also. 
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Nice one!!
I've noticed that the sort of people who favour "end of", "full stop", etc, at the end of their post tend to be the ones who are least able to join in a sensible debate.
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08-12-2009, 19:16
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i must just say i do feel so sorry for this dog and i do hope it is recovering well, however, my dog is crazy, loves other dogs and just wants to play.
for this reason he never goes off the lead unless we are away in a large open space and my oh is with me.
i would never muzzle my dog, it is just my personal opinion but they are cruel, i want to know if whilst i am out at night some thug aproaches me that i will be safe.
i feel for you and your dog i really do but this is the classic reason for the saying there are no bad dogs just stupid owners.
punish the deed not the breed!!!!!!!!!!
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08-12-2009, 20:49
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correct me if im wrong but isnt it the law to keep a dog on a lead.
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08-12-2009, 20:54
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
Instead of arguing about the rights and wrongs of dogs on/off lead I do think that your post covers the important (and likely to be hidden in the argument) issue with this problem, this dogs owner needs to accept what his dog has done and what he is capable of and act accordingly, I have to say that I agree with all that you have said, and applaud you for your calm and eloquent response.
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Originally Posted by lyndix
but do you not think that of the OP aswell???
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I do accept that the OP should have not have let her dog run up to the other dog as I said in an earlier post, but that really does not excuse the damage that the other dog made, I understand that dogs can be aggressive for various reasons onlead, but a bit of a stand off and grumble and what the dog did seem to be 2 different things entirely to me.
Some dogs are not friendly to other dogs but if the owner has reason to think that it will react in such an extreme way then the dog should be muzzled as you just do not know what is going to happen while you are out.
Surely people can't really think that it is ok to let a dog cause that kind of damage and then to allow a repeat performance, right and wrongs aside it is common sense surely?
If my dog had been badly injured I definitely wouldn't be as restrained as the OP even if my dog had run up, there is no excuse for that, it needs to be taken seriously before worse happens .
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08-12-2009, 22:01
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Even though our dogs arent nasty we allus pick our dogs up or put them on a lead if we see someone coming towards us, its only polite to put your dog on a lead "SO DO IT NEXT TIME THEN YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING TO MOAN ABOUT WILL YOU"
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08-12-2009, 22:04
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
I do accept that the OP should have not have let her dog run up to the other dog as I said in an earlier post, but that really does not excuse the damage that the other dog made, I understand that dogs can be aggressive for various reasons onlead, but a bit of a stand off and grumble and what the dog did seem to be 2 different things entirely to me.
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Dogs dont have the ability to reason like we do. He saw his owner was potentialy in danger and acted as he should. Sounds like a fantasticly loyal animal abd the owner should be proud.
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08-12-2009, 22:09
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What happened to common sense,it's quite simple whatever size of dog they all have the potential, to bite under circumstances they are unsure of or feel threatened......The best way as a dog owner is to
1) Not trust dogs in general on or off lead
2) Not trust the owner
The reasons are dogs can and are unpredictable,and as already stated some owners believe their dog wouldn't hurt a fly,famous last words......
Surely it makes sense to look after your own dog but respect other peoples
People always assume it's the bigger dogs that will bite,not always,i deal with all size dogs rotties,gsd,akita's,dallies,well behaved and (soft as a brush) as some would say......the dogs who have bit me are yorkies and westies.Makes sense to avoid akward situations,you think you know your dog but remember you don't know the other persons.......hope he's doing ok......
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08-12-2009, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Big Boy
Dogs dont have the ability to reason like we do. He saw his owner was potentialy in danger and acted as he should. Sounds like a fantasticly loyal animal abd the owner should be proud.
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How do you know this to be the reason? his aggression could have been caused by a few different things and none of them obvious here, but in a sense that is irrelevant what matters is that the dog would appear to be dangerous to other dogs, I really am having trouble understanding why people can not see this.
I would be a very long way from proud if it was my dog.
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08-12-2009, 22:39
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
How do you know this to be the reason?
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How do you know it wasnt?
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08-12-2009, 22:41
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Originally Posted by stonecircle
And you need to learn not to make asumptions, I am neither miserable nor do I need to get out more often. Just because I dislike what you may happen to like does not warrant being called misery guts. So go find someone else to troll OK???
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I wasn`t trolling,just giving my opinion like you.After all that`s what a forums for isn`t it ,OK misery guts!!
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08-12-2009, 22:41
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Its not anyone elses fault but your own that your dog got hurt, hope you feel guilty for not putting it on lead that poor dog is suffering because of you.
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08-12-2009, 22:51
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Originally Posted by Big Boy
How do you know it wasnt?
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I didn't say it was or it wasn't did I? are you just arguing for the sake of it by any chance 
What I was saying was that guessing all of the possible reasons does not make any difference after the fact and that now the owner should make sure that it doesn't happen again.
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08-12-2009, 22:52
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
I didn't say it was or it wasn't did I? are you just arguing for the sake of it by any chance 
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No, i just share a view different to yours. Is that ok?
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08-12-2009, 22:53
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Originally Posted by Big Boy
No, i just share a view different to yours. Is that ok? 
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Ditto!
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08-12-2009, 22:54
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
Ditto! 
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You like to get the last word in at home too?
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08-12-2009, 22:57
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Originally Posted by Big Boy
You like to get the last word in at home too?
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Yes  , but lets not talk about me hey, the topic is the thing under discussion.
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08-12-2009, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Moonbird
Yes  , but lets not talk about me hey, the topic is the thing under discussion.
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Your right. Why talk about someone so dull and unimportant when we can have lively debate instead
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08-12-2009, 23:00
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A number of posts have been removed due to a number of users' inability to discuss the situation without getting abusive.
Closing.
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