My dogs been attacked.. warning!

technophobe · 07-12-2009, 12:49

Last night I walked my dog in Grenoside. A man came out of the woods at approximately 10pm and had two dogs with him. One being a white bull mastif. My dog, a very well behaved cross lurcher, did what dogs do and approached them wagging his tail to say hello when the owner screeched 'TYSON' at the dog then a tussle took place. He said his dog wasnt very good with other animals. when I got in I saw my dog had a 4" x 2" wound to his stomach. Obviously I was gutted. His dog was on a lead but surely if he knew his dog was so vicious it should have been muzzled!!! my dog is now having surgery

I am a responsible dog owner and think people should be aware that even though he had his dog on a lead its clearly not enough in this case.

masbrolass · 07-12-2009, 12:54

Your dog entered the other dogs space. The other dog was on a lead and yours wasn't. You could see what sort of dog it was and you should have controlled your dog by recalling him. Late at night as well, what more warning signs do you need.

joanne5600 · 07-12-2009, 13:04

op doesnt say wether their dog was on a lead or not, if a dogs not good with others then it should be muzzled - could have been a child not a dog

annb3811 · 07-12-2009, 13:07

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Originally Posted by masbrolass

Your dog entered the other dogs space. The other dog was on a lead and yours wasn't. You could see what sort of dog it was and you should have controlled your dog by recalling him. Late at night as well, what more warning signs do you need.

i think your being a little bit harsh there....the dog really wouldnt have attacked in this way unless it really is a vicious dog..most well trained dogs can say hello in this manner without attacking and if the dog on the lead didnt like having its terratory invaded usually it would give a warning growl .showing of teeth etc before actually biting...

laurajill · 07-12-2009, 13:11

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Originally Posted by masbrolass

Your dog entered the other dogs space. The other dog was on a lead and yours wasn't. You could see what sort of dog it was and you should have controlled your dog by recalling him. Late at night as well, what more warning signs do you need.

Harsh. And I don't think it makes a difference what time of day a dog goes for another dog.

You can't always trust other dog owners to put muzzles on their dog. I take my nans dog a walk regulary and she is very friendly and loves playing with other dogs. There has been times when she has gone up to other dogs and she's ended up being nipped. I have sometimes just asummed other dogs are as friendly as Cassie is. I think it's wise to remember dogs can be a little nasty and to keep your dog close to you.

I do hope your dog gets better fast.

mazeppa · 07-12-2009, 13:12

Sorry to hear about your dog, I hope he's o.k. but if you were a responsible dog owner you wouldn't have let him go sniffing round strange dogs off the lead.
Not all dogs are as friendly as yours.

masbrolass · 07-12-2009, 13:14

When you see a dog on a lead don't you think "I wonder why that dog is on a lead, maybe I should just call mine back to me and maybe ask the owner". If you don't then you should. Dogs don't think as humans and the dog could be protecting his owner. Always ask, dogs can be timid and sometimes people don't want dogs bounding up to them. Any element of doubt keep clear.

hard2miss · 07-12-2009, 13:27

I see the problem here, your confusing dogs with humans.

A dog cant just go upto another and 'say hello' , they are pack animals and if one pack aproaches another then your going to get confrontation. Obviously this bloke knew that and kept his dog on a lead so that it could not start such a fight.

His dog was probably in the mind set of 'protect the pack' IE the owner and your dog strayed into a possition of being able to be a thrett. Dogs dont think that they are bigger or stronger so there far wont attack the puny one, the only concept they have is of a pack mentality and will resort back to that instinct given the chance no matter how much pampering and humanising you do to it.

Saying all that I hope your dog is ok and can see how this has all come of a shock to you.

PaulTansley · 07-12-2009, 13:44

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Originally Posted by technophobe

Last night I walked my dog in Grenoside. A man came out of the woods at approximately 10pm and had two dogs with him. One being a white bull mastif. My dog, a very well behaved cross lurcher, did what dogs do and approached them wagging his tail to say hello when the owner screeched 'TYSON' at the dog then a tussle took place. He said his dog wasnt very good with other animals. when I got in I saw my dog had a 4" x 2" wound to his stomach. Obviously I was gutted. His dog was on a lead but surely if he knew his dog was so vicious it should have been muzzled!!! my dog is now having surgery

I am a responsible dog owner and think people should be aware that even though he had his dog on a lead its clearly not enough in this case.

I take it your dog was not on a lead you don't actually state this but your dialog persumes not.
Even though you claim your a responsible dog owner I have no reason to doubt that you should always put your dog on a lead whatever the breed or temprement.
Dogs are unpredictable a good behaved dog can suddenly turn on another smaller dog or child and you have no right to walk your dog in public without a lead...
Hope your dog is not to hurt, had it been on a lead this would not have happened.

kscott2 · 07-12-2009, 13:45

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Originally Posted by masbrolass

When you see a dog on a lead don't you think "I wonder why that dog is on a lead, maybe I should just call mine back to me and maybe ask the owner".

In my instance its cos the little swine gets halfway to Barnsley every time i let him off the lead

anybody know of any good obedience tips for a greyhound ?

lyndix · 07-12-2009, 13:55

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Originally Posted by joanne5600

op doesnt say wether their dog was on a lead or not, if a dogs not good with others then it should be muzzled - could have been a child not a dog

My dog is not dog friendly, never let off lead in public and always with me and under control.
Although I feel for the OP`s dog and hope he recovers from his injury, the other dog was on a lead for a reason, to let your dog approach an on lead dog (just because you know yours is friendly) is a bad move.

Powerage · 07-12-2009, 14:12

I do have sympathy with the op because my dog has the nack of running up to dogs on the lead , I do try to keep an eye out and put her on the lead asap but it can be difficult sometimes when dogs suddenly appear out of bushes etc.

I do think that it would be responsible if you know your dog is vicious to put a muzzle on as no matter how responsible you think you are accidents may happen as in this case.

I think repsonsiblity lies with both parties in this case if my dog was likely to attack others I would d efinately put a muzzle on her in public.

willman · 07-12-2009, 14:15

I can see it from both angles - our lurcher greets everything 'cos she's never on a lead. The boxer lead or not tries to greet the other dog but due to his size and nature most people and dogs do a runner. If he's off the load he would be all over the other dog but he would be playing. So he's now restricted to a lead.
In my experince as well although my dog lurches forward to others he never growls or bites - unlike the other "well behaved" dogs he's meeting.

hard2miss · 07-12-2009, 14:24

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Originally Posted by willman

In my experince as well although my dog lurches forward to others he never growls or bites - unlike the other "well behaved" dogs he's meeting.

Thats the point tho, a lot of these other dogs that growl and bite are probably on leads or the ones approached, if they were the ones doing the approaching then they mignt also be the placid\submissive one. If they are on leads then they are more likley to protect tho owner and show signs of agression, keeping the dog close puts them in the defencive mind set (even if the dog is small and puny).

If all dogs were roamers (muzzles maybe a good idea tho

)but could be called back by owners then a lot of fights may not even happen.

Dozy · 07-12-2009, 14:45

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Originally Posted by lyndix

My dog is not dog friendly, never let off lead in public and always with me and under control.
Although I feel for the OP`s dog and hope he recovers from his injury, the other dog was on a lead for a reason, to let your dog approach an on lead dog (just because you know yours is friendly) is a bad move.

My bold

Very true. One of mine is nearly always on a lead, not because he's vicious, but because his recall is appalling. If we meet a "strange" dog in the park, I shorten his lead and watch how the other dog is reacting, whether it's on a lead or not. A quick, "Is yours friendly?" is usually enough to decide whether to let them have a sniff. But I'm always careful to keep an eye on their body language, even the friendliest dog can take a sudden dislike to another, usually for no apparent reason.

I used to end up worked into a frenzy when I had Staffies. I'd call them and get them on their leads when other dogs approached, not because they would go running off and attack other dogs, but because they didn't like their "space" invaded and objected to being sniffed by all and sundry.

Despite seeing me put my dogs on leads, some idiots still insisted on shouting, "It's OK - he's friendly!". I used to bellow back that mine weren't, and they were Staffies, and then they'd usually get the message.

willman · 07-12-2009, 14:48

My friendly 28kg boxer stretched his neck out to sniff a seated cocker spaniel today whilst walking for his breakfast sausage. Guess which one started sharling and barking.

Even friendly dogs don't like to be pawed to the ground, their owners like it even less. Yet get two strange boxers or Am bulls together and never any hassle (so far anyway).

isis · 07-12-2009, 14:55

my chinese crested is not dog friendly at all, always on a lead and even when i see large dogs approaching i always pick her up or walk well out of their way, even if they are on a lead.fortunately shes tiny so its possible for me to just scoop her up.

stressconsul · 07-12-2009, 15:27

My GSD dislikes other dogs and is kept on the lead in public places. Often dogs will approach and I sometimes have to catch their collar to keep them at a distance as well as controlling my own dog - very few owners seem to be able to call their dogs off. I frequently feel at risk of being nipped by holding off an unknown dog until its owner can get it under control.

masbrolass · 07-12-2009, 15:38

The most important training for a dog is recall. When it works its brilliant but when the dog zones out its impossible and thats why its so important to be aware that there is mainly a reason why owners keep their dogs on a lead.
Hope the OP's dog is OK and just hope that the incident has not affected his confidence.

J4m3s · 07-12-2009, 16:11

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Originally Posted by technophobe

Last night I walked my dog in Grenoside. A man came out of the woods at approximately 10pm and had two dogs with him. One being a white bull mastif. My dog, a very well behaved cross lurcher, did what dogs do and approached them wagging his tail to say hello when the owner screeched 'TYSON' at the dog then a tussle took place. He said his dog wasnt very good with other animals. when I got in I saw my dog had a 4" x 2" wound to his stomach. Obviously I was gutted. His dog was on a lead but surely if he knew his dog was so vicious it should have been muzzled!!! my dog is now having surgery

I am a responsible dog owner and think people should be aware that even though he had his dog on a lead its clearly not enough in this case.

Tyson is our family dog and is actully an american bull, my dad was taking him a walk last night as he does 3 times a day every day, when a cross lurcher decided to run at my dog in the dark wagging his tail, Tyson being the protective breed that he is saw this as a threat and reacted. If your dog was on a lead he would not have threatend my dog and he would not have reacted in the way he did. im sorry to hear that your dog is in surgery but at the end of the day had ur dog been on a lead none of this would have happend. And the fact that you started a thread called 'My dogs been attacked.. warning!' is annoying to be honest as it should be called ' My lurcher cross ran at an american bull dog on its lead in the dark and got bit... WARNING '