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Old 04-12-2009, 08:30   #1
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Heard of an interesting project called ARC - Attaining Respect and Confidence - on the radio this morning.

It's taking kids that have somehow gone wrong, feral, whatever and put them through what is being called a a boot camp. One 14 yo lad on the trailer was sent because he was getting drunk before school.

From the youngsters that Toby Foster interviewed there seemed to be some indications of success and they are understanding that the world doesn't revolve around them alone.

Does stick approach work better than a bagfull of carrots ?
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Old 04-12-2009, 08:33   #2
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Depends. Can the bagfull of carrots be fermented and turned into homebrew?
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:25   #3
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Some approaches are both carrot and stick like and maybe those are the ones that will work best. Make them do something that is really tough, but there is someone there at the end saying wow you did a good job even though it was really tough.
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Everyone needs structure and reward in their life. Giving someone a set of standards to adhere to, disciplining them when they (deliberately) don't follow them, teaching them when they (accidently) don't follow them, and rewarding them when they do follow them-it develops, fulfills and allows a person to take control of their life.
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:46   #5
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totaly off topic ---sorry just a random thought

would love to see the police everywhere set up {police cadets} like some fire services have done each police station could do this set aside a cabin or space for police cadet training ? kids learning the laws policeing ect ect would be good ????
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Old 04-12-2009, 12:27   #6
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Everyone needs structure and reward in their life. Giving someone a set of standards to adhere to, disciplining them when they (deliberately) don't follow them, teaching them when they (accidently) don't follow them, and rewarding them when they do follow them-it develops, fulfills and allows a person to take control of their life.
An excellent description of good parenting.
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Old 04-12-2009, 17:59   #7
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Unfortunately without a structured homelife these courses have only a very temporary impact. The effect soon wears off.

We often discipline the children but we need to discipline the parents. If a child is turning up to school drunk then their parents need to be hauled in front of someone to explain why it has happened. We spend too much time making excuses - 'we understand it's hard for you, would you like a cup of tea dear etc'.

It's like with these fat camps - children lose the weight but when they go home they become overweight again because the parents are in control of the food shopping. And it's the parents who are too stubborn to change.
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Old 05-12-2009, 21:11   #8
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Heard of an interesting project called ARC - Attaining Respect and Confidence - on the radio this morning.

It's taking kids that have somehow gone wrong, feral, whatever and put them through what is being called a a boot camp. One 14 yo lad on the trailer was sent because he was getting drunk before school.

From the youngsters that Toby Foster interviewed there seemed to be some indications of success and they are understanding that the world doesn't revolve around them alone.

Does stick approach work better than a bagfull of carrots ?

Anyone any idea of what happened at the Low Edges trailer for this? How were these participants chosen? Just wondering what others would think if they were approached saying their son/daughter had been chosen to go on this!
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:13   #9
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Great idea but will not acheive maximum benefit unless the parents are actively involved too.
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