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Old 01-11-2009, 12:08   #1
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does anyone know how long it takes to get a council property,ive been on the waiting list for almost 4 1/2 years im bidding like mad but still nothing ??
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:33   #2
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:40   #3
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Give it 25 years. This week's Council property paper shows that several properties were let to people who applied for a property in 1981 / 82 /83.

I know the system for letting to people with waiting time but without any need but doesn't it seem crazy that the decision on who gets a house depends on who happened to apply for a home a quarter of a century ago and not on their present needs. For a start , it means that no-one under 40 has a chance for those properties.
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:53   #4
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hi i went to the council last week they said for a 2 bed house its minimum of 5 years so if you want anything above that then good luck you will need priority from your doctor or if you have a health visitor then get her to get you priority
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:12   #5
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Give it 25 years. This week's Council property paper shows that several properties were let to people who applied for a property in 1981 / 82 /83.

I know the system for letting to people with waiting time but without any need but doesn't it seem crazy that the decision on who gets a house depends on who happened to apply for a home a quarter of a century ago and not on their present needs. For a start , it means that no-one under 40 has a chance for those properties.
So you think ALL properties should go to priority? On this forum, I think you'd be in the minoriyt for thinking that.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:17   #6
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hi i went to the council last week they said for a 2 bed house its minimum of 5 years so if you want anything above that then good luck you will need priority from your doctor or if you have a health visitor then get her to get you priority
Disregard the above message!

Priority is awarded according to your rehousing NEED. If you have no medical issues and don't require a bungalow or ground floor flat, then why would you try and get medical priority?

If someone is homeless, they need to go to the Homeless Service in Howden House. If someone can no longer stay in their current property due to overcrowding, anti-social behaviour, domestic violence etc. then they need to approach thier local housing office to speak to someone.

The only time you would get a doctor or health visitor involved is if your property was not suitable for your medical or mobility need. If you were awarded this priority then you would be expected to bid for ground floor flats, bungalows and adapted houses.
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Old 02-11-2009, 22:35   #7
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So you think ALL properties should go to priority? On this forum, I think you'd be in the minoriyt for thinking that.
Personally, yes. I think properties should be allocated on the basis of need (that's present need, not what you needed 25 years ago). I also think that people's needs should be recognised as many people who rely on waiting time only actually have real needs to move but the Council doesn't recognise them.
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Old 03-11-2009, 00:22   #8
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Personally, yes. I think properties should be allocated on the basis of need (that's present need, not what you needed 25 years ago). I also think that people's needs should be recognised as many people who rely on waiting time only actually have real needs to move but the Council doesn't recognise them.
So what would be the point in a "waiting list"?

Like I say, beware of the backlash for your comments as most people think that not enough go to waiting time.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:27   #9
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Personally, yes. I think properties should be allocated on the basis of need (that's present need, not what you needed 25 years ago). I also think that people's needs should be recognised as many people who rely on waiting time only actually have real needs to move but the Council doesn't recognise them.
Would you advocate the 'needs' criteria being expanded? For instance there are people who are genuinely homeless yet don't meet the 'needs' criteria, and have to depend solely on waiting time. I'm referring mainly to healthy adults without dependents - although their level of 'need' could be argued. Another area that could be considered as need is financial. Some housing associations award points for low income, but its never been part of the council criteria for awarding priority. Perhaps the whole priority system needs a revamp.

Because council housing historically was allocated on the basis of a queueing system, with a few special cases getting priority many people still think it still is/should be done that way. Although over the years the system has changed to mainly rehouse those who are deemed in need, its not well understood by those seeking council housing. As Leviathan says many feel they are being treated unfairly when they find out just how few chances they have.
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Old 03-11-2009, 20:51   #10
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Dont bother, your wasting your time. Sheffield has the longest waiting list in the UK and unless theres something wrong with you, theres no reason to try and obtain one from the local authority.
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Old 03-11-2009, 21:31   #11
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Dont bother, your wasting your time. Sheffield has the longest waiting list in the UK and unless theres something wrong with you, theres no reason to try and obtain one from the local authority.
Thank you for that extremely informed and in-depth contribution.
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Old 03-11-2009, 21:55   #12
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Like I say, beware of the backlash for your comments as most people think that not enough go to waiting time.
I think Ms MacBeth is right in saying the whole system needs a revamp. I think that where there is a shortage of housing, it should be allocated on the basis of need and not allocated to those who have no need but have just been on a register for many years.

I’m aware there are many people who say they want more properties allocated to people with waiting time only. I suspect in reality these people , perhaps like the OP, refer to waiting time but actually have serious needs themselves. I think these needs should be looked at.
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Old 03-11-2009, 22:16   #13
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who is more at priority for rented council house's?
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Old 04-11-2009, 13:19   #14
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Give it 25 years. This week's Council property paper shows that several properties were let to people who applied for a property in 1981 / 82 /83.

I know the system for letting to people with waiting time but without any need but doesn't it seem crazy that the decision on who gets a house depends on who happened to apply for a home a quarter of a century ago and not on their present needs. For a start , it means that no-one under 40 has a chance for those properties.
The people who are registered as 1981/82/83 are maybe people who got a two bedrom house when and have since had more children and need a bigger house and have used there waiting time to do so? Or maybe there people with 3 beds whose children have moved on and there down sizing? When you get your first property there is nothing to stop you re-registering and bidding in the future, be it 5 years or 20+. That's the thing see, not everyone on the waiting list is "waiting", it's just an in-case. Me for example got a 2 bed house 2 and a half years ago and straight away re-registered. I'm not in need of a 3 bed but in the next 5 years I will be, by which time I'll have 7 and a half years time.

As for the original post, how long does it take - depends how many people are on on the registeration with you. If your single or a couple wanting a flat, maybe up to 1year if your not fussy on area?
If you have no priority and are waiting for a house then maybe up to 10 years maybe more depending on area etc.
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Old 04-11-2009, 13:25   #15
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Disregard the above message!
The only time you would get a doctor or health visitor involved is if your property was not suitable for your medical or mobility need. If you were awarded this priority then you would be expected to bid for ground floor flats, bungalows and adapted houses.
We had priority status a while ago and were awarded a 3 bedroom house which had 15 steep stpes up to the front door, my husband had had an accident at work and would have no way been able to manage these steps and we had to get a letter from the hospital/doctor to prove this so we could turn the property down but still keep priority status. We were then offered a 2 bed level access property which we gladly accepted.
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Old 04-11-2009, 13:36   #16
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Dont bother, your wasting your time. Sheffield has the longest waiting list in the UK and unless theres something wrong with you, theres no reason to try and obtain one from the local authority.
Whilst this may not be the best worded post ever there is a certain element of truth with in it (somewhere)

Council housing given to priority cases is dished out based on the needs of these people. Waiting time properties which account for approx. 25% of lets are dished out on the amount of time you have waited. The fact is that the vast majority of people on the waiting list have no immediate need to be be rehoused and just WANT a council house. There is for the vast majority of the population no NEED to have a council house, but only a WANT to rent one. Takeaway that option and most would happily just rent in the private sector.
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Old 04-11-2009, 13:47   #17
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Myself and my partner have 10 years waiting time 2 girls aged 12 and 10 soon to be 11 and 13 and a boy due in the next 6 weeks I have been told by the council there is no point bidding on more than a 2 bed property as I won't even be considered. Not holding out much chance of being housed any time soon!

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Old 04-11-2009, 13:52   #18
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Myself and my partner have 10 years waiting time 2 girls aged 12 and 10 soon to be 11 and 13 and a boy due in the next 6 weeks I have been told by the council there is no point bidding on more than a 2 bed property as I won't even be considered. Not holding out much chance of being housed any time soon!
So why have another child and create an overcrowded situation?
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Old 04-11-2009, 14:12   #19
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Myself and my partner have 10 years waiting time 2 girls aged 12 and 10 soon to be 11 and 13 and a boy due in the next 6 weeks I have been told by the council there is no point bidding on more than a 2 bed property as I won't even be considered. Not holding out much chance of being housed any time soon!
Well the baby can stay in your room until it's 6 months anway, possibily up to being around 1 year but then really they should be looking at rehousing you to 3 beds I'd say?
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So why have another child and create an overcrowded situation?
To get a bigger council house and more benefits?
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