If the Conservatives win the election how high will unemployment rise?

wednesday1 · 28-09-2009, 10:10

With the Tories consistently above Labour in the opinion polls, given what has happened previously to employment levels when the economy was in recession, and there was a change of government and with the Tories promising huge public spending cuts.Just how high will unemployment rise?

Ousetunes · 28-09-2009, 10:15

It only needs to rise by one.

Providing that poor unfortunate signing on is Gordon Brown.

I wouldn't employ any of those muppets, not even to polish my shoes.

Grandad.Malky · 28-09-2009, 10:17

Who knows? Lets hope their policies have changed since they were last in control.

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NORMAN LAMONT, Britain's ex-chancellor, is often reminded of a remark he made : unemployment, he said, is a "price worth paying"

GordonBennet · 28-09-2009, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Malky

Who knows? Lets hope their policies have changed since they were last in control.

The full quote is actually ""Rising unemployment and the recession have been the price that we have had to pay to get inflation down. That price is well worth paying."

It may have been tactless but back in 1991 it was correct!

Grandad.Malky · 28-09-2009, 10:28

"If higher unemployment is the price we have to pay in order to bring inflation down, then it is a price worth paying."

- Norman Lamont, Chancellor of the Exchequer. 1992.

John Major also said "If it's not hurting, it's not working"

http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/03...aying-for.html

eckerslike · 28-09-2009, 10:50

Well over the course of a 12 year period of Labour government unemployment has risen by around half a million and is now increasing at the rate of around 2500 per day. Is that Labour's achievement for plunging the country into uprescedented debt?

epiphany · 28-09-2009, 11:14

The Tories will not save us from this mess.

But there are a lot of naive people stuck in the myopia of the two-party system that are willing to buy the Etonian salesmen's rhetoric.

mj.scuba · 28-09-2009, 11:48

How high will it rise if Labour win????

Fishcake · 28-09-2009, 11:53

It all depends on whether we continue to mask the true enemployment figure by not counting people on schemes and other ways to hide the real numbers. I can't see the Tories being any different to Labour.

Not sure where I heard it said but "different day, same ****" quite appropriate with Labout and Conservatives at the moment.

GordonBennet · 28-09-2009, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Fishcake

It all depends on whether we continue to mask the true enemployment figure by not counting people on schemes and other ways to hide the real numbers. I can't see the Tories being any different to Labour.

Not sure where I heard it said but "different day, same ****" quite appropriate with Labout and Conservatives at the moment.

The main difference is that most Tory MPs were born to govern. They've had the right breeding and upbringing, have gone to decent schools and will have mixed with important people in industry and the financial sector throughout their lives.

I'd much rather trust them than a bunch of labour hypocrites who spend their youth as socialists bleating about social justice and fairness then as soon as they get elected abandon their principles and stick their snouts in the trough !

Greybeard · 28-09-2009, 12:22

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Originally Posted by GordonBennet

I'd much rather trust them than a bunch of labour hypocrites who spend their youth as socialists bleating about social justice and fairness then as soon as they get elected abandon their principles and stick their snouts in the trough !

You mean that Tory MPs have no principles to abandon anyway ? Sounds true to me.

chem1st · 28-09-2009, 12:28

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Originally Posted by GordonBennet

The main difference is that most Tory MPs were born to govern. They've had the right breeding and upbringing, have gone to decent schools and will have mixed with important people in industry and the financial sector throughout their lives.

I'd much rather trust them than a bunch of labour hypocrites who spend their youth as socialists bleating about social justice and fairness then as soon as they get elected abandon their principles and stick their snouts in the trough !

Surely when employing people to run the country we should pick based upon ability, not birthright or pandering to social norms.

GordonBennet · 28-09-2009, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Greybeard

You mean that Tory MPs have no principles to abandon anyway ? Sounds true to me.

In a daft way you're right in that they're honest about their backgrounds and their beliefs. You don't hear Cameron waffling on about his working class background, he's quite open and honest about being an Old Etonian.

Compare that to Tony Blair who got caught out claiming to be a working class fan of Newcastle United when he said he remembered sitting in the Gallowgate End at St James' Park watching Jackie Milburn play.
This was impossible as Blair was four when Milburn's career finished, and the Gallowgate End did not have seats until the 1990s!

alchresearch · 28-09-2009, 12:47

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Originally Posted by GordonBennet

The main difference is that most Tory MPs were born to govern. They've had the right breeding and upbringing, have gone to decent schools and will have mixed with important people in industry and the financial sector throughout their lives.!

Older Tory MPs maybe, but there is a new breed rising through the ranks where the old silver spoon upbringing isn't present.

anarchist · 28-09-2009, 12:50

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Originally Posted by mj.scuba

How high will it rise if Labour win????

The forcasts are for between 3 and 3.4 million by the time they lose.

GordonBennet · 28-09-2009, 12:51

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Originally Posted by chem1st

Surely when employing people to run the country we should pick based upon ability, not birthright or pandering to social norms.

But people don't vote on ability, they vote on petty prejudices and the party the candidate represents. For example, most people acknowledge Vince Cable would be the most capable Chancellor yet he's no chance cos his party is unelectable.

Would you want The Queen to be democratically elected?

chem1st · 28-09-2009, 12:59

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Originally Posted by GordonBennet

Would you want The Queen to be democratically elected?

If it meant that I got to see a pretty face on my money, YES!

wednesday1 · 28-09-2009, 13:25

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Originally Posted by anarchist

The forcasts are for between 3 and 3.4 million by the time they lose.

The question is how high will they go under the Conservatives Tory boy?

anarchist · 28-09-2009, 13:29

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Originally Posted by wednesday1

The question is how high will they go under the Conservatives Tory boy?

So you admit that the Tories will win the election, Labour loser.

esme · 28-09-2009, 13:34

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Originally Posted by chem1st

Surely when employing people to run the country we should pick based upon ability, not birthright or pandering to social norms.

my hero or heroine

trouble is that's only two of us we need the rest of the country to vote this way as well