[mj.scuba]

Its seems from reading lots of posts on here that our culture is under pressure and possibly in decline. Even though I'm patriotic and enthusiastic about English culture, lots of people are not, but equally I don't think they would want it to disappear. I think the population needs to be passively coerced into feeling more English, so here's a few ideas.

• More bank holidays to celebrate our culture - we Brits work longer and harder than almost any other country on the planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think its only the Japanese that work longer hours, so how about these:
  • Queens Birthday
  • Coronation Day
  • An Armed Forces Day, possibly on the Monday after Rememberance Sunday. A day of mourning and commemoration followed by a day of celebration and thanks with ticker tape parades and bands 'n stuff.
  • A day to thank our public workers like the emergency services, teachers, nurses etc (is that what May Day is for?). Possibly a revamped May Day then with more parades and awards for our best public servants.
  • St Georges Day in England, St Davids Day in Wales, St Andrews Day in Scotland, and whatever it is for NI
  • A Magna Carta Day?

• Fly the Union flag and the national flag (of either England, Wales, Scotland) above public buildings including Town Halls, police stations, fire stations, schools, Law Courts. Would not have to apply in NI where it would cause trouble.

• Save our Post Offices
• Save our Pubs by tightening up on alcohol sales. That would encourange people back to the pubs where the community spirit is (well it isn't in your living room with tins out of the fridge)

• Reintroduce the ban on Sunday shopping, not for religous reasons but to encourage "family time". You know visiting Mum & Dad and having Sunday lunch followed by a walk etc or even going on day trips. Sunday shopping has destroyed much of that.

Comments and more ideas please!

[Phanerothyme]

Petri Dishes - lots of them - filled with agar. The home of a happy culture!

[P3d4nt]

I don't understand patriotism; why would you be proud of something you have no control over like your race or nationality?

Seems like aimless self-congratulation to me.

[neeeeeeeeeek]

Originally Posted by mj.scuba

Its seems from reading lots of posts on here that our culture is under pressure and possibly in decline. Even though I'm patriotic and enthusiastic about English culture, lots of people are not, but equally I don't think they would want it to disappear. I think the population needs to be passively coerced into feeling more English, so here's a few ideas.

• More bank holidays to celebrate our culture - we Brits work longer and harder than almost any other country on the planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think its only the Japanese that work longer hours, so how about these:
  • Queens Birthday
  • Coronation Day
  • An Armed Forces Day, possibly on the Monday after Rememberance Sunday. A day of mourning and commemoration followed by a day of celebration and thanks with ticker tape parades and bands 'n stuff.
  • A day to thank our public workers like the emergency services, teachers, nurses etc (is that what May Day is for?). Possibly a revamped May Day then with more parades and awards for our best public servants.
  • St Georges Day in England, St Davids Day in Wales, St Andrews Day in Scotland, and whatever it is for NI
  • A Magna Carta Day?

• Fly the Union flag and the national flag (of either England, Wales, Scotland) above public buildings including Town Halls, police stations, fire stations, schools, Law Courts. Would not have to apply in NI where it would cause trouble.

• Save our Post Offices
• Save our Pubs by tightening up on alcohol sales. That would encourange people back to the pubs where the community spirit is (well it isn't in your living room with tins out of the fridge)

• Reintroduce the ban on Sunday shopping, not for religous reasons but to encourage "family time". You know visiting Mum & Dad and having Sunday lunch followed by a walk etc or even going on day trips. Sunday shopping has destroyed much of that.

Comments and more ideas please!

The problem with looking for family time is that the majority of stupid people who are breeding shuld not be allowed kids and have no concept of the family. I can't see flying a flag making a blind bit of difference to anyone but give me more bank holidays, one a week!

[pem123]

Originally Posted by mj.scuba

Its seems from reading lots of posts on here that our culture is under pressure and possibly in decline. Even though I'm patriotic and enthusiastic about English culture, lots of people are not, but equally I don't think they would want it to disappear. I think the population needs to be passively coerced into feeling more English, so here's a few ideas.

• More bank holidays to celebrate our culture - we Brits work longer and harder than almost any other country on the planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think its only the Japanese that work longer hours, so how about these:
  • Queens Birthday
  • Coronation Day
  • An Armed Forces Day, possibly on the Monday after Rememberance Sunday. A day of mourning and commemoration followed by a day of celebration and thanks with ticker tape parades and bands 'n stuff.
  • A day to thank our public workers like the emergency services, teachers, nurses etc (is that what May Day is for?). Possibly a revamped May Day then with more parades and awards for our best public servants.
  • St Georges Day in England, St Davids Day in Wales, St Andrews Day in Scotland, and whatever it is for NI
  • A Magna Carta Day?

• Fly the Union flag and the national flag (of either England, Wales, Scotland) above public buildings including Town Halls, police stations, fire stations, schools, Law Courts. Would not have to apply in NI where it would cause trouble.

• Save our Post Offices
• Save our Pubs by tightening up on alcohol sales. That would encourange people back to the pubs where the community spirit is (well it isn't in your living room with tins out of the fridge)

• Reintroduce the ban on Sunday shopping, not for religous reasons but to encourage "family time". You know visiting Mum & Dad and having Sunday lunch followed by a walk etc or even going on day trips. Sunday shopping has destroyed much of that.

Comments and more ideas please!

Comments:

• More bank holidays? Fine by me, although they need to be economically sustainable

• Queen's birthday/Coronation day - no-one under 65 cares. At all

• Armed forces day. Perhaps, but the problem as we've seen, is that this can stir up trouble. What our forces are inlvolved in right now, isn't WW2, it's a deeply unpopular and questionable conflict and many people aren't comfortable celebrating it

• Public workers day, no no no. Why should we thank people for doing the jobs they wanted to do? How about thanking the poor souls in minimum wage jobs?

• We already have St Geroge's Day. We're percived as not having it (for daft reasons) because the Irish equivalent is so over-marketed

• Post offices. Killed largely by the very thing we're conversing on right now

• Sunday shopping. What about me, my Mum and Dad live hundreds of miles away. What about the workers you alluded to who might not be able to shop any other day than Sunday?

[hard2miss]

Start sending your kids to sunday school.

[Kthebean]

I dont think we need to save our culture. Cultures develop and evolve and theres nothing you can do to stop them

As for

I think the population needs to be passively coerced into feeling more English

thats just odd.

[epiphany]

What is "English culture" and why do you think we're "losing" it?

We are people. We live on an island. We call that island "England". (Edit: we actually call it England Scotland and Wales).

However, we are individuals first and foremost and we have our own identity. The individual is not represented by a flag or arbitrary symbol - they represent themselves as they are sovereign entities. It is only fictitious (legal) codes and rules that have bound the individual into an abstract collective form. The blind unthinking herd that proudly sing a "national anthem" that openly praises a ruling, privileged class and bow down to a flag of which they have not one clue what it truly represents.

I present before you the myth of the nation! The Land of Eng!!! Fish and chips!!!

[alchresearch]

Originally Posted by P3d4nt

I don't understand patriotism; why would you be proud of something you have no control over like your race or nationality?

Seems like aimless self-congratulation to me.

I'm guessing you're not a true Yorkshireman! We like to lord it over outsiders at every opportunity!

[Kthebean]

Originally Posted by P3d4nt

I don't understand patriotism; why would you be proud of something you have no control over like your race or nationality?

Seems like aimless self-congratulation to me.

Patriotism means something different to everyone. I am always happy that I was born a British woman as I live in a country where I can express myself and have legal and civil rights. I am proud of that.

[Berlin]

Originally Posted by Kthebean

I dont think we need to save our culture. Cultures develop and evolve and theres nothing you can do to stop them

This is very true. English culture has been continually changing since the day the first Angles arrived in what later became England .

In my opinion the greatest modern-day threat to any culture is Americanisation. Soon, all our children will be speaking the same dreadful American language (for it could not be considered English), watching the same drivel on TV, buying the same hyper-marketed merchandise etc. (Actually, I think its too late - they already do all of this) Add the growth of the world-wide-web and technology such as the X-Box, and it soon becomes clear why things are not as they once were. But that's life - change happens inexorably. We can do nothing about it except go with the flow, or become like dinosaurs.

[P3d4nt]

Originally Posted by alchresearch

I'm guessing you're not a true Yorkshireman! We like to lord it over outsiders at every opportunity!

Correct, I'm from further north.

[Blade73]

Originally Posted by P3d4nt

Correct, I'm from further north.

Middlesbrough? I still don't class that as Yorkshire!

[Chris_Sleeps]

Queens Birthday - She's German.
Coronation Day - She married a Greek.
St Georges Day - He's far from English.
St Andrews Day - He's a million miles away from being Scottish.
A Magna Carta Day - A Latin document for a French King.

Ironically, St Patrick is one of the few Saints that was born here. Shall we be proud of him?

[KATIEB_23]

Originally Posted by mj.scuba

Its seems from reading lots of posts on here that our culture is under pressure and possibly in decline. Even though I'm patriotic and enthusiastic about English culture, lots of people are not, but equally I don't think they would want it to disappear. I think the population needs to be passively coerced into feeling more English, so here's a few ideas.

• More bank holidays to celebrate our culture - we Brits work longer and harder than almost any other country on the planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think its only the Japanese that work longer hours, so how about these:
  • Queens Birthday
  • Coronation Day
  • An Armed Forces Day, possibly on the Monday after Rememberance Sunday. A day of mourning and commemoration followed by a day of celebration and thanks with ticker tape parades and bands 'n stuff.
  • A day to thank our public workers like the emergency services, teachers, nurses etc (is that what May Day is for?). Possibly a revamped May Day then with more parades and awards for our best public servants.
  • St Georges Day in England, St Davids Day in Wales, St Andrews Day in Scotland, and whatever it is for NI
  • A Magna Carta Day?

• Fly the Union flag and the national flag (of either England, Wales, Scotland) above public buildings including Town Halls, police stations, fire stations, schools, Law Courts. Would not have to apply in NI where it would cause trouble.

• Save our Post Offices
• Save our Pubs by tightening up on alcohol sales. That would encourange people back to the pubs where the community spirit is (well it isn't in your living room with tins out of the fridge)

• Reintroduce the ban on Sunday shopping, not for religous reasons but to encourage "family time". You know visiting Mum & Dad and having Sunday lunch followed by a walk etc or even going on day trips. Sunday shopping has destroyed much of that.

Comments and more ideas please!

You could also:

• Force everyone to have fish & chips for tea on a Friday
• Put 'darts' on the national curriculum as a compulsory school sport
• Ban flights abroad so that everyone has to take their holidays by the seaside with hankerchiefs tied in knots on their heads
• Make it comulsory to watch 'last of the summer wine' and 'Heartbeat' on Sundays
• Hand out prizes for the best topiary 'front hedge cut into the shape of a Union Jack'
• Force all kids to become Guides/Scouts, and go door-to-door selling cookies

??

[P3d4nt]

Originally Posted by Blade73

Middlesbrough? I still don't class that as Yorkshire!

Carlisle...

[splodgeyAl]

Originally Posted by KATIEB_23

You could also:

• Force everyone to have fish & chips for tea on a Friday
• Put 'darts' on the national curriculum as a compulsory school sport
• Ban flights abroad so that everyone has to take their holidays by the seaside with hankerchiefs tied in knots on their heads
• Make it comulsory to watch 'last of the summer wine' and 'Heartbeat' on Sundays
• Hand out prizes for the best topiary 'front hedge cut into the shape of a Union Jack'
• Force all kids to become Guides/Scouts, and go door-to-door selling cookies

??

Biscuits!!!!

[mj.scuba]

It is true that cultures naturally evolve over time, but not always with a positive effect.
Look at how our city centres are full of young drunks that get ****** and then puke and **** all over place and get into fights. Our young people are reviled by the local populus of tourist resorts for their drunken behaviour. That is a consequence of evolving culture.
Would you rather that continue, or would you try to reverse it?

[pem123]

Originally Posted by mj.scuba

It is true that cultures naturally evolve over time, but not always with a positive effect.
Look at how our city centres are full of young drunks that get ****** and then puke and **** all over place and get into fights. Our young people are reviled by the local populus of tourist resorts for their drunken behaviour. That is a consequence of evolving culture.
Would you rather that continue, or would you try to reverse it?

And you think that your list of "proposals" will stop young people from going on holiday and having fun?

[mj.scuba]

Originally Posted by pem123

And you think that your list of "proposals" will stop young people from going on holiday and having fun?

I never said they would.
But its been said that our culture will naturally evolve - quite true. Doesn't make the consequences of that natural evolution desirable though does it?