[Reesh2052]

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

[sibon]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

Firstly, pot, kettle, black springs to mind, on reading your post. Secondly, some people can spell, punctuate and use grammar well, some cannot. There are many possible reasons for this, including dyslexia, poor education and laziness.

My advice to you is to read the message without judging the standard of the English. That way, you won't run the risk of underestimating someone.

[natjack]

Bad choice of subject, dude, could be anyone from any country posting on here, not always people with EFL.

Added to which you're not exactly in the top flight yourself when it comes to punctuation, so best not cast the first stone.

No capital F in 'foreigners', and no apostrophe either, if that helps? And personally, I'd go for 'simplest' rather than 'most simple'

[EdnaKrabappe]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

I'm sorry but we all make typos but to do this and not check your own post?

[AJ sheffield]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

You post looks more like a dig at suspected racists than people with bad grammar, which one is it ?

[Ms Macbeth]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

Not everyone is good at composing sentences or spelling. Hopefully, by posting on forums like this - some will improve those skills.


Just a thought, if you are going to start a thread criticising spelling and grammar, make sure you don't make a gaffe like suggesting people 'punctuate their spelling' or include an errant apostrophe...

[verona]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

I wasn't aware that it's an English lesson?

Just because not everyone has had the same standard of educacation as you, does this mean they shouldn't post unless they can spell and punctuate well?? Have you ever thought some people might be dyslexic?

I did rubbish at school, my spelling and grammer is rubbish, but it's got a hell of a lot better since coming on here and putting it to practice. So don't knock people for trying. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

[Dimitri 11]

Originally Posted by sibon

Firstly, pot, kettle, black springs to mind, on reading your post. Secondly, some people can spell, punctuate and use grammar well, some cannot. There are many possible reasons for this, including dyslexia, poor education and laziness.

My advice to you is to read the message without judging the standard of the English. That way, you won't run the risk of underestimating someone.

Yeah mon, beleeve this, im atcually a geeneus up dere wit Eenstoon and Steevun Hiking.

[waxonwaxoff]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

Because it is an open forum, for people from all walks of live and all age ranges. With Sheffield being the thing in common. Why not be a bit more forgiving and look at the people behind the spelling mistakes. Hopefully the will be as forgiving about your lack of consideration.

[alex3659]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

bobar thread. oops sorry. Bobar thread.

[ptigga]

Originally Posted by Reesh2052

What is wrong with people, why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum? I see so much criticism about Foreigner's etc but many "so called English people" have such a poor understanding of the language.

God help our children in the future if this is the standard so many people adhere to on SF!

Why have you capitalised "Foreigner's"? Why have you used an possessive apostrophe for a plural?

"What is wrong with people?" is a complete question and should end with a question mark. Your next sentence ("why do people find it so difficult to spell the most simple words or actually punctuate their spelling on Sheffield Forum") is also a complete question and should start with a capital letter.

Why have you put the entire phrase "so called English people" in quotation marks. Surely you should have only quoted the words "so called".

HTH HAND

[carosio]

Its due to several factors; reading low standard english as in the Daily Star and Sun etc. (even The Times is riddled with bad syntax), not reading good quality literature, etc. Also some correspondents don't seem to "proof read" their article prior to sending it.

[Fareast]

English grammar has been going ' down the pan ' steadily for the last 40 years or more. So, unfortunately, has the ability to present a clear argument, a viewpoint, an account......etc.....

At the moment, I guess, most people, more or less, understand most other people. The danger, however, is that there IS a ' tip-over point, ' past which, no-one can follow what someone else is trying to say ; it 's one of the happy
by-products of Child Centred Education !

[melthebell]

1: my grammars ok, mind u she's getting on a bit these days.
2: its a forum not an english exam
3: why cant people post threads in the correct section?
4: never ever critise peoples spelling...you ALWAYS make some mistakes in the post and look like an idiot.

[cgksheff]

So many caught with so little bait.

Well done sir! (or madam?)

[ptigga]

Originally Posted by cgksheff

So many caught with so little bait.

Well done sir! (or madam?)

Grammar nazis can't help but respond when they see a post like this.

[sibon]

Originally Posted by Fareast

English grammar has been going ' down the pan ' steadily for the last 40 years or more. So, unfortunately, has the ability to present a clear argument, a viewpoint, an account......etc.....

At the moment, I guess, most people, more or less, understand most other people. The danger, however, is that there IS a ' tip-over point, ' past which, no-one can follow what someone else is trying to say ; it 's one of the happy
by-products of Child Centred Education !

That is an interesting viewpoint, but you forget that the way we communicate has changed dramatically in the last forty years. I hardly ever handwrite anything now. Sometimes I type, often I copy paste, I talk, video-conference and phone. Charles Dickens didn't have such a wide range of options. I chose Dickens because he was a great communicator, who used every means at his disposal to get his message across.

Try this, when you have a minute. Record a conversation with a friend and then transcribe it. You will quickly see that we don't speak in sentences, so we don't necessarily have to write in them to make sense. I still think that proper written English is important, but having a point of view and being able to articulate it is much more important that knowing how to use a semi-colon.

[waxonwaxoff]

Originally Posted by Fareast

it 's one of the happy
by-products of Child Centred Education !

I doubt it. I would say its more a by product of exam centred education. Children are not taught to learn and read. They are taught to memorise sections to pass exams. No thought involved just repetition. If children don't understand it instantly its too late and they are already on to memorizing the next subject. By a child gets to senior school with a low level of reading and writing, they will be put on the shelf as beyond help. More time should be spent teaching children the basics until they understand instead of jumping to the next thing and getting through the next exams.

[punk]

Originally Posted by sibon

Firstly

"First" is already an adverb, adding "ly" on the end is wrong.

[waxonwaxoff]

Originally Posted by cgksheff

So many caught with so little bait.

Well done sir! (or madam?)

Everybody falls for the bartfast traps. Thats why he keeps coming back.