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Old 19-11-2003, 21:23   #1
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I'd like to know what peoples general opinions are on Human Cloning.

What are the long term consequences?

Could there be amazing benefits?

What do you think about cloning human organs?

Do you support the action for all research of this kind been stopped all together? If so, why?
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Old 23-11-2003, 22:14   #2
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This one slipped by quietly.

I do not agree with human cloning i think it is too dangerous. The sheep didn't live as long as normal so there may be defects with the process that would not make it worth while.

But organ cloning would be excellent if they can make it work. Has all the research been stopped?

I do know if 2 people who have recently had knee operations that have had to have a bit taken out and grown in the lab to be replaced. Not cloning but if this can work then excellent.

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Old 23-11-2003, 23:31   #3
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If there are medical benefits then these should be explored, but cloning for social "fashionable" reasons should be outlawed.

Here's an interesting hypothetical for people to comment on:

A middle aged rich man or woman finds him/herself wanting a child to take care of, bring up and inherit the family fortune. He/she cannot have children and is unwilling to adopt as they want something of themselves to continue. Let's say for arguments sake that any problems in cloning have been ironed out, and a perfect, healthy clone could be made of this person. Would it be acceptable to you if this person had them selves cloned, and raised a baby that only had one genetic parent? If not, what are your objections to this?
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Old 24-11-2003, 09:13   #4
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I have mixed opinions on this.
Abuse by governments and the super rich for a start.

Abuse by terrorist organisations.

Then again I like the idea of having a little clone of me to carry on... well my EXACT genetic make up after I pass on.

But the research is too young and as Sidla pointed out, Dolly the sheep didn't luve too long did she.

Hmmm it's a tough one!
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Old 24-11-2003, 17:59   #5
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It was not Sidla it was me.
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Old 24-11-2003, 18:09   #6
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Yeah, I want a clone - well, almost a clone but with a higher boredome threshold and a higher work-ethic setting.

Then I could send it to work whilst I enjoy myself
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Old 24-11-2003, 19:44   #7
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That's fine, until it beats you to the promotion you were after, buys a flashier car and nicks your girlfriend.
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Old 24-11-2003, 21:21   #8
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Hmmmm....yes, not thought of that
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Old 24-11-2003, 23:04   #9
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[B]I'd like to know what people general opinions are on Human Cloning.

B]
Not a particularly good idea if they clone someone like me.

Don't be stupid, how can that statement affect my parole?
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Old 29-11-2003, 11:53   #10
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In the natural world you only find clones in situations of low disease. If you have a whole set of people with the same immune system disease would spread like wildfire.

This is why the only small short-lived species reproduce asexually where this isn't much of an issue.

There really wouldn't be much point in it to creative individuals and other uses (eg harvesting organs etc) have huge ethical considerations.
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Old 29-11-2003, 12:05   #11
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Cloning? Great idea.

I could send my clone to work while I read through this lot.
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Old 29-11-2003, 13:47   #12
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You might have a fight on your hands though chap - he probably wouldn't want to go either..!!
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Old 29-11-2003, 13:57   #13
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Cloning will be alright when the teething problems are overcome, it is the same as everything else, practise makes perfect, also, I do agree with growing spare parts in the laboratory, as this benefits us all.
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Old 30-11-2003, 20:13   #14
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Originally posted by Funky Dave
That's fine, until it beats you to the promotion you were after, buys a flashier car and nicks your girlfriend.
Fantastic comment, picking myself up off the floor

if you know what I mean

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Abuse by terrorist organisations.
I am scared of you mate with ideas like that

because its no secret now that stem cells are being cloned every day, only a matter of time.....

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In the natural world you only find clones in situations of low disease. If you have a whole set of people with the same immune system disease would spread like wildfire.

This is why the only small short-lived species reproduce asexually where this isn't much of an issue.

its all true kids !!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-12-2003, 00:25   #15
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I have mixed opinions on this.
Abuse by governments and the super rich for a start.

Abuse by terrorist organisations.

Then again I like the idea of having a little clone of me to carry on... well my EXACT genetic make up after I pass on.

But the research is too young and as Sidla pointed out, Dolly the sheep didn't luve too long did she.

Hmmm it's a tough one!
A wise response IMO.
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Old 05-12-2003, 00:34   #16
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Cloning will be alright when the teething problems are overcome, it is the same as everything else, practise makes perfect, also, I do agree with growing spare parts in the laboratory, as this benefits us all.
I am inclined to agree.

This is an area of science which I feel needs to be (and is being) studied.

We must explore this area of science there is much to be learned.
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Old 05-12-2003, 00:49   #17
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Overall I am in favour of Cloning.

I understand it could be abused like anything else.

Ultimately I think the potential benefits far outweigh any risks.

I fail to understand the arguement about not knowing what the consequences will be. There must be many scientific experiments over the years which the consequences were not known. The whole point is that we continue the research so we can discover the consequences. I don't feel that not knowing the possible consequences is a legitmate argument for stopping the research.

I have attached an intresting article regarding the research of cloning in Singapore.


http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click...1B252&set_id=1
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Old 10-12-2003, 20:05   #18
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There must be many scientific experiments over the years which the consequences were not known. The whole point is that we continue the research so we can discover the consequences.
Experiment is to examine the validity of a hypothesis, or to determine the efficacy of someting previously untried.

Bring it on kids....
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