|
|
03-03-2009, 05:51
|
#1
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Walkley
Total Posts: 15,852
|
Armed men have attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team. No fatalities reported amongst the players but 5 policemen have been killed
BBC Story
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 06:35
|
#2
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SHEFFIELD
Total Posts: 4,819
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by taxman
Armed men have attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team. No fatalities reported amongst the players but 5 policemen have been killed
BBC Story
|
Mercifully, the players are out of danger.
http://www.sportinglife.com/cricket/...anka_Lead.html
Probably have devastating consequences for Test cricket as we know it.
Nobody can guarantee 100% safety.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 06:36
|
#3
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Total Posts: 952
|
Shocking. Pakistan will soon be ostracised by the rest of the (non-muslim) world in every social and sporting sphere.
__________________
Stuff. Just stuff.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 06:47
|
#4
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Total Posts: 952
|
Just glad it wasn't India that was attacked - could have had devastating consequences across the world.
__________________
Stuff. Just stuff.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 07:06
|
#5
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Total Posts: 4
|
Sri Lanka filled in for India (who withdrew due to Mumbai) - perhaps its time to stop tours to Pakistan? No doubt the Indian reps on the ICC will be calling for a total ban...which is exactly what the extremists want?
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 07:18
|
#6
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Total Posts: 952
|
Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
__________________
Stuff. Just stuff.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 15:04
|
#7
|
|
Sláinte!
Mod on the Other Side
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the distillery
Total Posts: 19,296
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by slapdosh
Sri Lanka filled in for India (who withdrew due to Mumbai) - perhaps its time to stop tours to Pakistan? No doubt the Indian reps on the ICC will be calling for a total ban...which is exactly what the extremists want?
|
The ICC and MCC seem as one in that (although no decision has been definitely made) one can be pretty sure that no tours of Pakistan will happen for quite some time, and they almost certainly won't host the 2011 World Cup.
My personal feeling is that they will have a 'home in exile', and use Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah as venues for 'home' matches.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 15:26
|
#8
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sheffield City Region
Total Posts: 375
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pritt Stick
Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
|
no sir, the Zionists want first and foremost to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the coming of their Antichrist!
Regards
__________________
[SIZE="1"]~ If you don't like any rule, just follow it. Reach the top and change the rule ~
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 15:31
|
#9
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Wayfarer
Total Posts: 2,508
|
otherwise known as mashiach
__________________
In the light of truth, falsehood will always perish
♥
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 15:38
|
#10
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sheffield
Total Posts: 6,638
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by happyhippy
The ICC and MCC seem as one in that (although no decision has been definitely made) one can be pretty sure that no tours of Pakistan will happen for quite some time, and they almost certainly won't host the 2011 World Cup.
My personal feeling is that they will have a 'home in exile', and use Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah as venues for 'home' matches.
|
Quite agree, the game of cricket should not be made to suffer as a result of these atrocities. Pakistan must recognise the concerns of the international community and play cricket on neutral venues from now on. This is a tragedy for the Pakistani people, and thoughts are with the murdered people and their families. Pakistan is being held hostage by these extremist nutters. Till these nutters throughout the country are brought under control then there really is no chance or need of any sportsmen to make a martyr of themselves for the game.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 15:50
|
#11
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: الارض
Total Posts: 2,420
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pritt Stick
Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
|
best to wait and see and let a proper investigation get underway- a lot of 'dark forces' operate in both India and Pakistan, and as of yet, no one knows who was behind this terrible and senseless attack.
What has Pakistan got to gain over this? There is no history of any tension with Sri Lanka. It is also well known that the Sri Lankan government is in current internal war with Tamil group. There can be the possibility that Tamils were behind it, sending a message.
http://www.nationalia.info/en/news/408
I do agree however that cricket in Pakistan will suffer, the nations favorite sport is now in great problems with touring now certainly the last thing on anyones mind. The economy will suffer hugely.
__________________
I didn't come here of my own accord, and I can't leave that way.
Whoever brought me here will have to take me home. Rumi
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 15:50
|
#12
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sheffield
Total Posts: 6,638
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pritt Stick
Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
|
This indeed seems to have a bigger dimention to it than simple terror attack. They failed in Saudi Arabia in the 90's, they failed in Iraque, and also failed to cause a war between India and Pakistan with their Mumbai attacks and now this. The extremist mindset seems to have been emboldened by concessions given to them in the North Western Provcince of Pakistan where only 10% of population have managed to impose their will on the rest through intimidation and terror. The population of Pakistan are the victims in this war game.
Last edited by tab1; 03-03-2009 at 15:54.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 17:06
|
#13
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Total Posts: 211
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazooka
best to wait and see and let a proper investigation get underway- a lot of 'dark forces' operate in both India and Pakistan, and as of yet, no one knows who was behind this terrible and senseless attack.
What has Pakistan got to gain over this? There is no history of any tension with Sri Lanka. It is also well known that the Sri Lankan government is in current internal war with Tamil group. There can be the possibility that Tamils were behind it, sending a message.
I do agree however that cricket in Pakistan will suffer, the nations favorite sport is now in great problems with touring now certainly the last thing on anyones mind. The economy will suffer hugely.
|
So you doubt it has anything to do with Islam or Muslims then?
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 17:15
|
#14
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sheffield
Total Posts: 6,638
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudders
So you doubt it has anything to do with Islam or Muslims then?
|
If it was about Islam or Muslims, then a lot more of us would be carrying the guns my friend. It is about politics using religion for their opportunistic ends.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 17:19
|
#15
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Total Posts: 2,061
|
That's just not cricket. !
__________________
What we have here is failure to communicate,. Some men you just can't reach so you have here what we had last week, . Which is the way he was,well he is. I don't like it any more than you do:....... Guns n rose's. Civil war, taken from the film cool hand luke.
Its always in the last place you look, fact.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 18:31
|
#16
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: الارض
Total Posts: 2,420
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudders
So you doubt it has anything to do with Islam or Muslims then?
|
**********TROLL ALERT***********
DNFTT: DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
__________________
I didn't come here of my own accord, and I can't leave that way.
Whoever brought me here will have to take me home. Rumi
Last edited by Baz1; 03-03-2009 at 18:36.
|
|
|
|
03-03-2009, 19:59
|
#17
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Total Posts: 2,527
|
I suppose something like this was bound to happen one day - yet another classic case of "the few who spoil it for the many".
The incidents in Pakistan will certainly screw international cricket for a good while - and unfortunately future "guaranteed security arrangements" will be taken with a pinch of the proverbial salt. From what I understand, if it hadn't have been for the prompt action of the coach driver putting his boot down, the news might've been considerably worse.
Of course, politics has reared its ugly head in cricket before - South Africa and Zimbabwe spring to mind - but to my knowledge this is the first time that mindless murderous violence has been used.
What a shame.
|
|
|
|
04-03-2009, 07:11
|
#18
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Total Posts: 952
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazooka
**********TROLL ALERT***********
DNFTT: DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
|
Stop acting like a child Bazooka. The bloke made a valid point. Islamists are the most likely culprits like he suggested. Your response to his point is the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'na na na na'.
Are you so insecure that you can't accept it might (almost definitely have benn) have been Muslims behind this?
__________________
Stuff. Just stuff.
|
|
|
|
04-03-2009, 07:21
|
#19
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: الارض
Total Posts: 2,420
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pritt Stick
Stop acting like a child Bazooka. The bloke made a valid point. Islamists are the most likely culprits like he suggested. Your response to his point is the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'na na na na'.
Are you so insecure that you can't accept it might (almost definitely have benn) have been Muslims behind this?
|
I said before that nothing as of yet has been confirmed- whether this turns out to be Pakistani militants (and it could easily be made to appear it was) it has nothing to do with Islam- as I am sure you would not associate crimes commited by Hindus/Sikhs on Hinduism and Sikhism as a whole.
As for my 'troll' point, look at the number of posts,date joined... and all of a sudden out of the blue the SF member turns up and first thing he/she says is Islam and muslims..
__________________
I didn't come here of my own accord, and I can't leave that way.
Whoever brought me here will have to take me home. Rumi
|
|
|
|
04-03-2009, 08:16
|
#20
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Total Posts: 224
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazooka
I said before that nothing as of yet has been confirmed- whether this turns out to be Pakistani militants (and it could easily be made to appear it was) it has nothing to do with Islam- as I am sure you would not associate crimes commited by Hindus/Sikhs on Hinduism and Sikhism as a whole.
|
I can see what you're saying here - ultimately responsibility rests with the individuals who decided to carry out these acts. We cannot have collective blame and punishments.
However, if someone is acting - even just in part- out of a specific religious or ideological belief, then surely at some point that religion or ideology has to be called into question?
For example, if we take the issue over abuse within Catholicism - we can say that the individuals involved must be held responsible and accountable. But we also have to question aspects of the Catholic faith - such as strict celibacy laws on priests, the positions of unquestionable power that priests and nuns held within some Catholic boarding schools etc.
I think this is a pretty reasonable argument and often (although clearly not always) it is borne out of simply wanting to try prevent a repeat of the incident.
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 14:59.
POSTS ON THIS FORUM ARE NOT ACTIVELY MONITORED Click "Report Post" under any post which may breach our terms of use.
|