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Old 03-03-2009, 05:51   #1
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Armed men have attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team. No fatalities reported amongst the players but 5 policemen have been killed

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Old 03-03-2009, 06:35   #2
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Armed men have attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team. No fatalities reported amongst the players but 5 policemen have been killed

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Mercifully, the players are out of danger.
http://www.sportinglife.com/cricket/...anka_Lead.html

Probably have devastating consequences for Test cricket as we know it.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:36   #3
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Shocking. Pakistan will soon be ostracised by the rest of the (non-muslim) world in every social and sporting sphere.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:47   #4
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Just glad it wasn't India that was attacked - could have had devastating consequences across the world.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:06   #5
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Sri Lanka filled in for India (who withdrew due to Mumbai) - perhaps its time to stop tours to Pakistan? No doubt the Indian reps on the ICC will be calling for a total ban...which is exactly what the extremists want?
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Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
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Old 03-03-2009, 15:04   #7
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Sri Lanka filled in for India (who withdrew due to Mumbai) - perhaps its time to stop tours to Pakistan? No doubt the Indian reps on the ICC will be calling for a total ban...which is exactly what the extremists want?
The ICC and MCC seem as one in that (although no decision has been definitely made) one can be pretty sure that no tours of Pakistan will happen for quite some time, and they almost certainly won't host the 2011 World Cup.

My personal feeling is that they will have a 'home in exile', and use Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah as venues for 'home' matches.
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Old 03-03-2009, 15:26   #8
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Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
no sir, the Zionists want first and foremost to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the coming of their Antichrist!

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Old 03-03-2009, 15:38   #10
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The ICC and MCC seem as one in that (although no decision has been definitely made) one can be pretty sure that no tours of Pakistan will happen for quite some time, and they almost certainly won't host the 2011 World Cup.

My personal feeling is that they will have a 'home in exile', and use Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah as venues for 'home' matches.
Quite agree, the game of cricket should not be made to suffer as a result of these atrocities. Pakistan must recognise the concerns of the international community and play cricket on neutral venues from now on. This is a tragedy for the Pakistani people, and thoughts are with the murdered people and their families. Pakistan is being held hostage by these extremist nutters. Till these nutters throughout the country are brought under control then there really is no chance or need of any sportsmen to make a martyr of themselves for the game.
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Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
best to wait and see and let a proper investigation get underway- a lot of 'dark forces' operate in both India and Pakistan, and as of yet, no one knows who was behind this terrible and senseless attack.

What has Pakistan got to gain over this? There is no history of any tension with Sri Lanka. It is also well known that the Sri Lankan government is in current internal war with Tamil group. There can be the possibility that Tamils were behind it, sending a message.

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I do agree however that cricket in Pakistan will suffer, the nations favorite sport is now in great problems with touring now certainly the last thing on anyones mind. The economy will suffer hugely.
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Perhaps - but what the extremists want first and foremost is to set off a war between the Muslim and non-Muslim world which they believe will lead to the Caliphate being restored.
This indeed seems to have a bigger dimention to it than simple terror attack. They failed in Saudi Arabia in the 90's, they failed in Iraque, and also failed to cause a war between India and Pakistan with their Mumbai attacks and now this. The extremist mindset seems to have been emboldened by concessions given to them in the North Western Provcince of Pakistan where only 10% of population have managed to impose their will on the rest through intimidation and terror. The population of Pakistan are the victims in this war game.

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best to wait and see and let a proper investigation get underway- a lot of 'dark forces' operate in both India and Pakistan, and as of yet, no one knows who was behind this terrible and senseless attack.

What has Pakistan got to gain over this? There is no history of any tension with Sri Lanka. It is also well known that the Sri Lankan government is in current internal war with Tamil group. There can be the possibility that Tamils were behind it, sending a message.



I do agree however that cricket in Pakistan will suffer, the nations favorite sport is now in great problems with touring now certainly the last thing on anyones mind. The economy will suffer hugely.
So you doubt it has anything to do with Islam or Muslims then?
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Old 03-03-2009, 17:15   #14
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So you doubt it has anything to do with Islam or Muslims then?
If it was about Islam or Muslims, then a lot more of us would be carrying the guns my friend. It is about politics using religion for their opportunistic ends.
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Old 03-03-2009, 17:19   #15
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So you doubt it has anything to do with Islam or Muslims then?
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Old 03-03-2009, 19:59   #17
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I suppose something like this was bound to happen one day - yet another classic case of "the few who spoil it for the many".
The incidents in Pakistan will certainly screw international cricket for a good while - and unfortunately future "guaranteed security arrangements" will be taken with a pinch of the proverbial salt. From what I understand, if it hadn't have been for the prompt action of the coach driver putting his boot down, the news might've been considerably worse.
Of course, politics has reared its ugly head in cricket before - South Africa and Zimbabwe spring to mind - but to my knowledge this is the first time that mindless murderous violence has been used.
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Stop acting like a child Bazooka. The bloke made a valid point. Islamists are the most likely culprits like he suggested. Your response to his point is the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'na na na na'.

Are you so insecure that you can't accept it might (almost definitely have benn) have been Muslims behind this?
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Stop acting like a child Bazooka. The bloke made a valid point. Islamists are the most likely culprits like he suggested. Your response to his point is the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'na na na na'.

Are you so insecure that you can't accept it might (almost definitely have benn) have been Muslims behind this?
I said before that nothing as of yet has been confirmed- whether this turns out to be Pakistani militants (and it could easily be made to appear it was) it has nothing to do with Islam- as I am sure you would not associate crimes commited by Hindus/Sikhs on Hinduism and Sikhism as a whole.

As for my 'troll' point, look at the number of posts,date joined... and all of a sudden out of the blue the SF member turns up and first thing he/she says is Islam and muslims..
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I said before that nothing as of yet has been confirmed- whether this turns out to be Pakistani militants (and it could easily be made to appear it was) it has nothing to do with Islam- as I am sure you would not associate crimes commited by Hindus/Sikhs on Hinduism and Sikhism as a whole.
I can see what you're saying here - ultimately responsibility rests with the individuals who decided to carry out these acts. We cannot have collective blame and punishments.

However, if someone is acting - even just in part- out of a specific religious or ideological belief, then surely at some point that religion or ideology has to be called into question?

For example, if we take the issue over abuse within Catholicism - we can say that the individuals involved must be held responsible and accountable. But we also have to question aspects of the Catholic faith - such as strict celibacy laws on priests, the positions of unquestionable power that priests and nuns held within some Catholic boarding schools etc.

I think this is a pretty reasonable argument and often (although clearly not always) it is borne out of simply wanting to try prevent a repeat of the incident.
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