Second Conjoined Twin Dies In Hospital

nuttygirl · 26-12-2008, 18:26

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/7800155.stm

The second of the conjoined sisters died on Christmas Day

teeny · 26-12-2008, 18:28

aww ow sad rest in peace little one.

Mr Westwood · 26-12-2008, 19:51

A waste of time, effort and money from the social pot all for two selfish parents. The poor girls should have been aborted when they were found to be conjoined as the professionals suggested I beleive.

Plain Talker · 26-12-2008, 19:54

yes, it's terribly sad, as I was saying in the thread over here, about them
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/show...3&postcount=39.

the family's hearts must be breaking.

David- · 26-12-2008, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Mr Westwood

A waste of time, effort and money from the social pot all for two selfish parents. The poor girls should have been aborted when they were found to be conjoined as the professionals suggested I beleive.

Sometimes things don't work out, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. A short life of suffering is better than no life at all.

nuttygirl · 26-12-2008, 22:54

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Originally Posted by David-

Sometimes things don't work out, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. A short life of suffering is better than no life at all.

I'm not so sure. Leave it until people are in their 60s/70s/80s dying of various debilitating illnesses and they themselves say the very opposite.

Alastair · 27-12-2008, 00:05

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Originally Posted by David-

Sometimes things don't work out, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. A short life of suffering is better than no life at all.

Yes it's a very sad case.

By all accounts it was never going to work out. The mother who is only 18 and the father were told of the twins condition at a 12 week scan and advised to abort.

Why they chose to go ahead we don't know and we may never know.

LibertyBell · 27-12-2008, 06:48

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Originally Posted by Mr Westwood

A waste of time, effort and money from the social pot all for two selfish parents. The poor girls should have been aborted when they were found to be conjoined as the professionals suggested I beleive.

Pity your parents weren't given the same advice.

LibertyBell · 27-12-2008, 06:50

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Originally Posted by Alastair

Why they chose to go ahead we don't know and we may never know.

They had some religious objection and made what they thought was the right decision at the time.

David- · 27-12-2008, 08:58

If there were *zero* chance then I doubt they would have attempted the operation, so there must have been a chance. You are talking about them like they're dogs or something, its funny how quick people are to give up when its not their own life. As for when I'm old and struggling in a hospital bed, I hope my family aren't like you lot and at least give me a fighting chance before they even think about touching that life support.

Plain Talker · 27-12-2008, 09:05

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Originally Posted by Alastair

Yes it's a very sad case.

By all accounts it was never going to work out. The mother who is only 18 and the father were told of the twins condition at a 12 week scan and advised to abort.

Why they chose to go ahead we don't know and we may never know.

They may have the same mindset as me, "Where there's life, there's hope".

As we are not the parents, and, statistically speaking, the frequency of conjoined twins occurring is so rare that we can probably say with some degree of certainty, it will never happen to us, who can say, 100%, what we'd do in their situation?

It is dreadfully sad, but the parents and doctors did their best under awful circumstances.

Minimo · 27-12-2008, 09:16

Conjoined twins have been successfully separated, and without knowing all the medical details, it may be the parents thought their babies might also be survivors. Hope is a wonderful thing, sometimes against all the odds.
I hope they go on to have the family they want.

Alastair · 27-12-2008, 09:26

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They may have the same mindset as me, "Where there's life, there's hope".

I suggest you read "This Way for the Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen" by Tadeusz Borowski.

It will cure you of any such delusion.

Plain Talker · 27-12-2008, 09:51

Eugenics is something I am also against.

Stiffmyster · 27-12-2008, 10:05

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Originally Posted by LibertyBell

Pity your parents weren't given the same advice.

well said! here here shame on you!

Stiffmyster · 27-12-2008, 10:06

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well said! here here shame on you!

shame on mr westwood i meant!

m^rk · 27-12-2008, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Mr Westwood

A waste of time, effort and money from the social pot all for two selfish parents. The poor girls should have been aborted when they were found to be conjoined as the professionals suggested I beleive.

Well it's a shame they didn't put you down at birth with an attitude like yours they are babys for christ sake someones children.

luybell · 27-12-2008, 16:05

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Originally Posted by Mr Westwood

A waste of time, effort and money from the social pot all for two selfish parents. The poor girls should have been aborted when they were found to be conjoined as the professionals suggested I beleive.

What an absolutely terrible thing to say. I am a bit gobsmacked to be honest. I really feel for the parents. They must have been through hell over the last few months & to read comments like this just sickens me. RIP Hope & Faith.

m^rk · 27-12-2008, 16:18

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Originally Posted by luybell

What an absolutely terrible thing to say. I am a bit gobsmacked to be honest. I really feel for the parents. They must have been through hell over the last few months & to read comments like this just sickens me. RIP Hope & Faith.

same here i can't say what i really feel because of obvious reasons.

Mr Westwood · 28-12-2008, 13:18

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same here i can't say what i really feel because of obvious reasons.

Vocabulary limit?

Stop being such reactionaries. The doctors told them to abort at an early stage, should they have been aborted too?

The parents knew there was very little hope yet on religious grounds they cost the tax payer a lot of money and the two girls a lot of suffering. Where there's life there isn't necessarily hope.