[The Watcher]

New laws come into affect and ts about time too. This is a barbaric practice

Originally Posted by Ministry of justice

Justice Minister Bridget Prentice said:

'This new law is a powerful tool that will help ensure that no-one is forced into marriage against their will and those already in such marriages will receive protection.

But will it make any difference in the real world?

[upinwath]

I hope so. Arranged marriages are fine with me as long as all involved agree.
It's a common tradition that has worked for many with no more problems than any other type of marriage.
Enforced marriage is another story and I see it as kidnap and rape.
I don't know if the law will be effective but I hope so.

[Suffragette1]

It may not make a difference but at least anyone caught arranging a forced marriage can be arrested. It's long overdue.

[crunky]

yes i hope this is effective also, Knew this young lady (well girl at the time really) was drugged and taken to the airport.. had it not been for a concerned passer by who noticed she was sleepy (and initially though she was drunk and ill) and called an ambulance. She was a few days later stabbed by a relative for not going, and again ambulance called. Fortunately she lived and is now married to a really nice fella (whom she choose)

I do think there is a distinction between 'arranged' marriages and forced marriages, i was chatting to a friend at work, who was a young muslim lady, she said she was getting married soon to a man she had not yet met, but had spoken too over the phone.. on discussing the matter further turns out that she was really happy, she absolutely trusted her Father (Whom in knew to be an outstanding man) to pick the right man for her.. they are still very happily married some years later, and they are the kind of couple who give marriage a good name, they bounce off each other well and the love they have for each other radiates from the marriage.

C

[DIVA]

Welcome news but I doubt it goes far enough to protect all those pressured into marrying someone. I think many people male and female feel that they cannot disappoint/upset their families. I also feel that many parents actually don't want this for their children but are also pressured by their wider communities.

[crunky]

Originally Posted by DIVA

Welcome news but I doubt it goes far enough to protect all those pressured into marrying someone. I think many people male and female feel that they cannot disappoint/upset their families. I also feel that many parents actually don't want this for their children but are also pressured by their wider communities.

In most cases i agree, the family 'obligation' can be very strong, im not sure where it even comes from, maybe village/family alliances, what we really need is someone who comes from that kind of background to fill us in on why ?

I do wonder what the legistation will do about people who are already married claiming it was forced/arranged agaisnt their will.. will the marriage be void??

C

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by crunky

I do wonder what the legistation will do about people who are already married claiming it was forced/arranged agaisnt their will.. will the marriage be void??

That's already grounds for annulment, though I don't know how effective it is in practice. (Wouldn't the people who forced you to marry, also force you not to apply for the annulment?)

[The Watcher]

Supprised at the lack of interest in this story tbh.

[Mr.Squirty.]

Originally Posted by upinwath

I hope so. Arranged marriages are fine with me as long as all involved agree.
It's a common tradition that has worked for many with no more problems than any other type of marriage.
Enforced marriage is another story and I see it as kidnap and rape.
I don't know if the law will be effective but I hope so.

Don't talk rubbish, any forced or arranged marriages are unnatural. People should be allowed to fall in love before they commit themselves to marriage unless you are telling me of course that forced marriages are better than one's you can get out of if they don't suit you?

I suppose it all depends on where you live in the world and what men like you believe in.

[crunky]

Originally Posted by The Watcher

Supprised at the lack of interest in this story tbh.

I guess its somthing that doasnt really effect the majority of people, especially as the victims rarely speak out (i suspect becuase of fear).

C

[Heyesey]

Originally Posted by Mr.Squirty.

Don't talk rubbish, any forced or arranged marriages are unnatural. People should be allowed to fall in love before they commit themselves to marriage unless you are telling me of course that forced marriages are better than one's you can get out of if they don't suit you

Score one for a total failure to understand the difference between arranged marriages and forced ones.

[Asaw]

Worked at one time were I had to support 16-18 yr olds. One yound asian girl had been taken to Pakistan and married off whilst they went to her grandmothers funeral. Her young sister was engaged when not there.

Within 6 months he was over here and she was trying to divorce him because he was violent to her and forced himself onto her.

[Zamo]

Originally Posted by Mr.Squirty.

Don't talk rubbish, any forced or arranged marriages are unnatural. People should be allowed to fall in love before they commit themselves to marriage unless you are telling me of course that forced marriages are better than one's you can get out of if they don't suit you?

I suppose it all depends on where you live in the world and what men like you believe in.

People should be able to marry for whatever reason they want, including, but not exclusively, love. Who are you to say what is natural and what isn't? If there is consent by both parties then it is no one elses business.

[purdyamos]

Originally Posted by Mr.Squirty.

Don't talk rubbish, any forced or arranged marriages are unnatural. People should be allowed to fall in love before they commit themselves to marriage unless you are telling me of course that forced marriages are better than one's you can get out of if they don't suit you?

I suppose it all depends on where you live in the world and what men like you believe in.

How on earth did you get 'forced marriages are better' from Upinwath's statement 'I see it as kidnap and rape'? Even by SF's frequently depressing standard of argument construction, that one's quite breathtaking.

To coin a phrase, don't talk rubbish.