The American Taliban

Keith Rich · 01-09-2008, 12:20

We hear a lot about the Islam Taliban, but check out the American Taliban. Frightening truly frightening.

Keith

http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture...n_Taliban.html

Suffragette1 · 01-09-2008, 12:26

No surprises here. America is certainly a nation of extremes, which I suppose it#s bound to be given its size.

*carrie* · 01-09-2008, 12:49

This is nothing new and is the same thing that's been said in the US (and other Western countries) behind the scenes for years...

callippo · 01-09-2008, 19:17

These commentators might have excrebable views but comparing them to the Taliban is nothing short of ridiculous - and the usual garbage we expect from the infantile hate-America brigade.

Wake me up when these sort of people take it upon themselves to roam about heavily armed through Washington DC, enter houses and destroy television sets, radios, cassettes, and photographs. Or when they roam the streets beating those they deem to be violators of the Bible. When they dismantle all civil institutions, and especially women's institutions. Or when they they ban all press and refuse to allow any international media to enter the United States. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The Taliban are as awful a system of government as it is possible to imagine.

Dhimmi · 01-09-2008, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Keith Rich

We hear a lot about the Islam Taliban, but check out the American Taliban. Frightening truly frightening.

Keith

http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture...n_Taliban.html

Thanks a bunch Keith! I was going to have enough trouble sleeping tonight having just watched '28 Days Later' on DVD; now I'll never nod-off! Scary...

Keith Rich · 02-09-2008, 08:39

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Originally Posted by callippo

These commentators might have excrebable views but comparing them to the Taliban is nothing short of ridiculous - and the usual garbage we expect from the infantile hate-America brigade.

Wake me up when these sort of people take it upon themselves to roam about heavily armed through Washington DC, enter houses and destroy television sets, radios, cassettes, and photographs. Or when they roam the streets beating those they deem to be violators of the Bible. When they dismantle all civil institutions, and especially women's institutions. Or when they they ban all press and refuse to allow any international media to enter the United States. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The Taliban are as awful a system of government as it is possible to imagine.

There would be doing these sorts of things if they were able. Just like the catholic church would still be burning atheists at the stake if they had the power.

I'm not anti American, but I am anti religion which I believe is the biggest danger we face today. Especially when people like Bush thinks he has a hot line to God and people like Bailey Smith know so little about the religion they claim to follow that they don't even know that Jesus was a Jew.

Keith

callippo · 02-09-2008, 09:09

There would be doing these sorts of things if they were able

that's the whole point - they're not 'able' - because they live in a pluralistic liberal democracy where their viewpoints are vigorously opposed.

pathman · 02-09-2008, 09:19

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Originally Posted by callippo

There would be doing these sorts of things if they were able

that's the whole point - they're not 'able' - because they live in a pluralistic liberal democracy where their viewpoints are vigorously opposed.

not too sure about that. if McCain gets power alongside his pro-life VP I would expect a ban on abortion to be a possibility.

it's not that long since the days of prohibition, and there are more evangelicals in power now. the line between church and state, so firmly drawn by Jefferson and others, is becoming wider and hazier by the day in the US.

religion wants to tell you how to live your life, it just can't help it.

Swami Dhyan · 02-09-2008, 11:17

I wonder personally how many of these "Christian" politicians turn up at Bohemian Grove every year to indulge in fake human sacrifice rites.

How do these idiots get elected? Who are the idiots electing them?

The USA will get what they elect...and so will the rest of the world...without any say whatever. GOD help us all!

Keith Rich · 03-09-2008, 09:10

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Originally Posted by callippo

There would be doing these sorts of things if they were able

that's the whole point - they're not 'able' - because they live in a pluralistic liberal democracy where their viewpoints are vigorously opposed.

Unfortunatly in American they are not vigorously opposed, many of the views expressed by the American Taliban are mainsteam American religious thought.

It is not commonly known that when he was Prime Minister Tony Blair gave £20 million of tax payers money to help Reg Vardey (The car dealer and militant Christian) set up Acadamy schools that teach children that the bible is the true word of God and that myths such as the Adam and Eve story are facts to be believed over evolution.

Keith

Swami Dhyan · 03-09-2008, 09:24

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Originally Posted by Keith Rich

Unfortunatly in American they are not vigorously opposed, many of the views expressed by the American Taliban are mainsteam American religious thought.

It is not commonly known that when he was Prime Minister Tony Blair gave £20 million of tax payers money to help Reg Varney (The car dealer and militant Christian) set up Acadamy schools that teach children that the bible is the true word of God and that myths such as the Adam and Eve story are facts to be believed over evolution.

Keith

Reg who?

(Don't mean to be pedantic...it made me guffaw..thanks.

MAMALOCHA! · 03-09-2008, 09:43

Separation of state and religion is never achievable; governments like to make out it is.

BasilRathbon · 03-09-2008, 09:56

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Originally Posted by Swami Dhyan

Reg who?

(Don't mean to be pedantic...it made me guffaw..thanks.

Blimey! All these years I thought the popular 1970s sitcom "On The Buses" was a work of fiction and it turns out to be The Word Of The Lord!

Does that mean the character "Blakey" is actually Satan in a bus inspectors' uniform then?

flamingjimmy · 03-09-2008, 10:00

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Originally Posted by MAMALOCHA!

Separation of state and religion is never achievable; governments like to make out it is.

The founding fathers tried so hard to seperate the church and state, a lot of Americans don't even seem to know that, they just think that the idea was 'one nation under god' which wasn't even part of the original pledge of allegiance, let alone having anything whatsoever to do with the founding of their country. Tis truly ridiculous.

And of course it can happen, it's just not gonna happen overnight.

callippo · 03-09-2008, 10:00

It is not commonly known that when he was Prime Minister Tony Blair gave £20 million of tax payers money to help Reg Varney (The car dealer and militant Christian) set up Acadamy schools that teach children that the bible is the true word of God and that myths such as the Adam and Eve story are facts to be believed over evolution.

what the hell has that got to do with the United States. No US government/taxpayers money goes to any sort of religous institution - but then Church and State are seperate there, unlike here.

Plain Talker · 03-09-2008, 10:13

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Originally Posted by Swami Dhyan

Reg who?

(Don't mean to be pedantic...it made me guffaw..thanks.

You know... Reg! Reg Varney:- he played "Butler" in "On The Buses" **gets coat**

http://www.onthebusesfanclub.co.uk/n...reg_varney.htm

MAMALOCHA! · 03-09-2008, 10:16

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Originally Posted by flamingjimmy

The founding fathers tried so hard to seperate the church and state, a lot of Americans don't even seem to know that, they just think that the idea was 'one nation under god' which wasn't even part of the original pledge of allegiance, let alone having anything whatsoever to do with the founding of their country. Tis truly ridiculous.

And of course it can happen, it's just not gonna happen overnight.

Could happen but just look at the leaders currently in power in countries who claim to be 'religion and state separate' but how many of them leaders use there beliefs in there decisions.

flamingjimmy · 03-09-2008, 10:19

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Originally Posted by MAMALOCHA!

Could happen but just look at the leaders currently in power in countries who claim to be 'religion and state separate' but how many of them leaders use there beliefs in there decisions. [?]

Far too many, you're absolutely right that it hasn't happened anywhere yet, but that's not to say that it can't happen.

Swami Dhyan · 03-09-2008, 10:20

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Originally Posted by BasilRathbon

Blimey! All these years I thought the popular 1970s sitcom "On The Buses" was a work of fiction and it turns out to be The Word Of The Lord!

Does that mean the character "Blakey" is actually Satan in a bus inspectors' uniform then?

Or that Olive is actually Eve?

Adam and Olive...mmm...does'nt have quite the same ring does it.

Swami Dhyan · 03-09-2008, 10:24

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Originally Posted by callippo

It is not commonly known that when he was Prime Minister Tony Blair gave £20 million of tax payers money to help Reg Varney (The car dealer and militant Christian) set up Acadamy schools that teach children that the bible is the true word of God and that myths such as the Adam and Eve story are facts to be believed over evolution.

what the hell has that got to do with the United States. No US government/taxpayers money goes to any sort of religous institution - but then Church and State are seperate there, unlike here.

So...where does US taxpayer's money go then? Check it out...you may get a wake up call.