JamieOliver has just opened his first (which indicates there may be more to follow) Ministry of Food. A building showing cooking demonstrations and giving away free recipes to local people to encourage healthy eating.
Do you think it will help?
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Reminds me of how the Methodists set up their Temperance pubs in order to educate people about the 'sin' of alcohol. We know how successful that was, too.
Why do people need a celebrity chef to encourage them to eat healthily, it's not rocket science is it?
"Do you think it will help?"...His bank balance maybe?
Did you not see those horrid mothers on the news last year in Rawmarsh?! Looking at them and the state of their children, I think healthy eating is very much rocket science to them.
It has little to do with people not knowing what's healthy - everyone knows that and always has done. It has a lot more to do with the uncomfortable fact that if money is short you need your kids to eat what you've bought for them or they will go hungry - so you are simply not going to pay out £1.50 for a salad lunch that will be untouched, and then have the kids come home and hungrily demolish a loaf of bread that you were hoping to make last til next day.
Then there's also something George Orwell recognised as far back as the 1930s (read The Road To Wigan Pier) but which monied people like Oliver always fail to see - that if you have very little money one way of introducing a little pleasure into your daily life is to indulge in cheap treats like a cup of sugary tea (Orwell noted how the middle classes would often criticise the unemployed for spending precious money on nutritionally 'bad' bags of sugar and packs of tea - nothing changes, eh?), a pack of 10p crisps, a sausage roll, a reduced price bag of Mini Eggs from Netto.... - it might not be a designer dress or a trip to the Maldives but it's a treat people can afford.
My colleague from Voluntary Action Rotherham is meeting him next week to discuss recruiting volunteers to run the shop. There's also a job being advertised to manage the shop. The whole thing is going to be filmed for a TV programme (of course).
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I can't stand this programme, what a set up from start to finish. Jamie sat on top of a hill looking across Rotherham, Jamie sat at the side of a road in contemplation at how he can turn the people of Rotherham's diet around - how patronising.
I live in Sheffield and the word has definitely not got to my neck of the woods even though I'm at the edge of Rotherham - how many of you have had it passed on?
When I got married at 21 years and didn't know how to cook I went to M&S got a basic cook book and got started from that - if you want to do it you don't need JamieOliver's encouragement.
To be honest now that filmings finished I wonder how many of his recruits are still cooking or are back on the crisps. Also that gobby woman with the blond hair really gets on my wires - she's definitely only there for the cameras.
When I got married at 21 years and didn't know how to cook I went to M&S got a basic cook book and got started from that - if you want to do it you don't need JamieOliver's encouragement.
I think the problem he is trying to highlight - and to combat - is that people don't do that anymore - they just don't cook.
The diet of a lot of people on that programme were unhealthy - and I don't think they were extreme examples.
He has had an effect on them, and their lives are better for it. He hopes that other people might also benefit from a healthier diet and a happier life.
I'm not sure why so many people mock Oliver - it seems one can't have idealist aims without being 'patronising'. Shame.
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I'm all for healthy eating, I just don't like patronising slack jawed mockney gits.
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Jamie sat on top of a hill looking across Rotherham, Jamie sat at the side of a road in contemplation at how he can turn the people of Rotherham's diet around - how patronising.
Like Jesus and the sermon on the mount? Or was that Moses?
Do you think, in this modern, secular age, that we are making celebrities into our new gods?
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Out of interest I wonder how many bashing the programme are the ones who could do with being on it. To be fair if you want to be unhealthy thats your own problem. But there are people out there who want the help and want to learn how to cook better for their children. So while your brandishing your sword think about the children that will get a better diet out of the project. This will be be benficial to them long term and probably help a lot of other problems. Concentration as well as obesity and a lot of special needs problems have been helped by a better diet. Just because some of you think you are above such a scheme dosent mean it cant help others. There has already been a massive turn around in the two first women in the show. The most appaling thing is there isnt something already in place to offer this to familys who need it.
Like Jesus and the sermon on the mount? Or was that Moses?
Do you think, in this modern, secular age, that we are making celebrities into our new gods?
after we've got bored of ourselves, yep - without a doubt.
i don't have a problem with the bloke myself, i can even cope with gillian mckeith. not sure how effective it will be though - the problem is that we generally trust that "if they sell it in the shops- it must be ok for you". and there is alot of cheap convenient crap out there that's far from ok for you
it's sad that we need to be educated, meticulous label readers in order to make good food choices these days.
It has little to do with people not knowing what's healthy - everyone knows that and always has done. It has a lot more to do with the uncomfortable fact that if money is short you need your kids to eat what you've bought for them or they will go hungry - so you are simply not going to pay out £1.50 for a salad lunch that will be untouched, and then have the kids come home and hungrily demolish a loaf of bread that you were hoping to make last til next day.
Then there's also something George Orwell recognised as far back as the 1930s (read The Road To Wigan Pier) but which monied people like Oliver always fail to see - that if you have very little money one way of introducing a little pleasure into your daily life is to indulge in cheap treats like a cup of sugary tea (Orwell noted how the middle classes would often criticise the unemployed for spending precious money on nutritionally 'bad' bags of sugar and packs of tea - nothing changes, eh?), a pack of 10p crisps, a sausage roll, a reduced price bag of Mini Eggs from Netto.... - it might not be a designer dress or a trip to the Maldives but it's a treat people can afford.
I can't stand this programme, what a set up from start to finish. Jamie sat on top of a hill looking across Rotherham, Jamie sat at the side of a road in contemplation at how he can turn the people of Rotherham's diet around - how patronising.
I live in Sheffield and the word has definitely not got to my neck of the woods even though I'm at the edge of Rotherham - how many of you have had it passed on?
When I got married at 21 years and didn't know how to cook I went to M&S got a basic cook book and got started from that - if you want to do it you don't need JamieOliver's encouragement.
To be honest now that filmings finished I wonder how many of his recruits are still cooking or are back on the crisps. Also that gobby woman with the blond hair really gets on my wires - she's definitely only there for the cameras.
Sorry, rant over!
How dare he try and improve something. For you to find this patronising shows that you have no idea about society around you! You can sort yourself out so you did. Others need encouragement. Maybe people with these views about Jamie realise deep down that frankly he's better than they are!!!!!
