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Originally posted by Ant
It's still highly unlikely, mate. The celtic scots had their own language at that time - germanic influence was negligable. Would they really stop using their own word for stone to adopt a foreign one? Er, no. I think not.
And Stanage would not adopt a name simply because it's served by a trade route. You could just as well argue that it was settled by Norwegians, but why bother? Accept the most likely. The scottish origin is highly unfeasable. It's an Anglo-Saxon name, in Northumbria - an Anglo-Saxon kingdom. 'Nuff said.
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What makes you so sure... after all. The Jutes and Frisians were Germanic.
Yet the Frisians whom 1st settled im the Kent area, also had strongholds in what is now the West Midlands, north Lincs., and in Humberside area.
They also had strongholds in the Borders region of Scotland and in Aberdeenshire.
Some Scottish place names have just as many Germanic origins as some of the English place names!
Dumfries means Fort of the Frisians.
As for the Celtic Scot's they originally came from Ireland into what was Caledonia (now Argyll). Later integrating with the Welsh Britons and Picts whom lived in Scotland alongside the numerous Germanic races. There was 3 primary Celtic languages in Scotland (Irish-Scots Gaelic, Welsh-Gaulish tongue, and Ersk (now a lost language!) . Along with those there was also Norse, Anglo-Saxon and Frisian. And to boot the latin of the Romans.
As said I don't know Stanage as an area. And Yes, I agree it is more than likely, in fact probable that the area is most likely Anglo-Saxon. But people may have lived their before the Anglo-Saxons.
And the Anglo-Saxons were originally an amalgamation of the Saxens and Angles both of whom were foreign to Albion (England) and came from around the Danube River if I am not mistaken.
People would have lived in the area before the Anglo-Saxons, as the Anglo-Saxons were more renowned for farming, and the Celts were renowned for their metal work and as settlers around tin and iron mines. The native Celts of England were primarily of Welsh-Gaulish descent i.e. the Britons.
It would be highly likely that the area may have been settle 1st by Britons, then Anglo-Saxons, then other Germanic races as trade routes grew.
Thus the influence of the language and place name would have changed over the years.
But it means no an iota od different... as the thread was primarily concerned with the Stanage Pole and not the Edge itself!