Stanage... most likely comes from the old-english "Stang", meaning a pole. Their was an old folk custom in England known as "Riding the Stang".
The Stang was originally imported from Scandinavia... via Scotland, then into parts of England, with the May Poles there in scandinavia, known as- Majistang.
The old Riding poles originally used by Witches which later became the now distinctive broomstick, were know as stangs.
Since the edge predates the pole, perhaps a more obvious explanation would be that Stanage is simply a local version of 'stone edge', which certainly describes it, and the pole gets its name from the nearby edge.
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Wouldn't it make as much sense if it was Stang Edge, meaning, the Edge near the Stang (or pole) which has been declined to Stanage and then during (probably) Victorian times, the "Edge" was appended.
The Victorians did this many times as they tried to name everything in the middle england phraseology as was their wont.
For example how many Lakes are there in the Lake District?
One (Bassenthwaite Lake), all the others are Meres (Grasmere, Thirlmere etc) or Waters (Consiton Water).
The number of times I have corrected people who say Lake Windermere is very numerous.
Originally posted by steevie/d i saw some red indians dancing round it it may be a totum pole
Stangs were also used for torturing erm... adultering husbands!!! aka - "Riding the Stang"... there was a case in Eccelsefield.
Maybe the edge is where they practised the folk-custom of "Riding the Stang"?
There are also cases or were, in Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, North Yorkshire, and in Cumbria...
There is a Stang Forest in Cumbria for that matter!!!
An old gentleman that lived locally many years ago explained to me that the pole was one of many that were placed on the moor during the war years, to prevent the enemy gliding their planes down and landing their troops in this area - Hope this helps - Ex Hope Valley Taxi Driver.
sorry stoney i can't see your explanation been right.
all the fields round there, i'm sure they could glide over and land in another one.
could even land a bit closer to civilization.
Litotes,
I see your point, but Stanage Edge is part of a long row of edges, most of which take their name from the village below, e.g. Curbar Edge, Froggatt Edge, Bamford Edge. In the case of Stanage, there is no village, so it's just Stone Edge. There are also other places in Derbyshire and elsewhere called Stanage, which as far as I know don't have a pole nearby. As to tin, are you sure about the mines cgksheff, I thought it was lead that was mined in the Peak? I've never heard of tin mining this far north.
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Originally posted by Kristian What I can't understand is why 272 people have viewed a thread called 'Wooden Pole in a Field', myself included! While the thread content is quite good, there must be some awfully bored folk out there!
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Well I thought it was a thread about an oak statue of the Pope!
Originally posted by cgksheff The word "stannage" or "stanage" has meanings connected to tin and tin mining. From the latin "stannum". Symbol for tin = Sn.
I know that there were old tin mines closer to Matlock, but isn't it possible there was something going on here?
The moor is a bit "pitted" up there.
It could be even simpler that that after all an old Scottish frod for stone is - 'Stane' and when a lot of the mines and quarries first open a lot of peole from Scotland and elsewhere came to England to work the mines and pits etc.
Stannage... could simply mean Stane or Stone Edge!
Originally posted by Ant The name probably derives from the Anglo-Saxon word "stænr" - stony ground. It's highly unlikely to be of Scottish origin.
It would depend on the origins of the place! Which I do not know! I was only making suggestions to possibilities.
As we have discussed previous? It would depend on weither Stanage was in reference to the edge or pole?
Thus, either way... it would also depend on whom settled the village/town and then whom re-settled it? As place names and their meanings also change.
If it is in reference to pole then it is more likely that reference is what I mentioned earlier... Stan being short for - Stang. Which is originally from Scandinavia.
As for your Staenr... it most likely has the same origin as the Scottish word Stane. After all Germanic peoples also settled in Scotland as well as in parts of England.
Which is more likely? It was an Anglo-Saxon area, so it's far more likely - like the vast majority of place names surrounding it - to have an Anglo-Saxon origin. I can assure you, very few scots settled in that area. The Anglo-Saxon word for stone is stan. The word stane is a colloquial version of the same saxon name. There are countless place names in England containing "stan", all of which are Anglo Saxon in origin. Bringing the scots into the equation is needless.
Originally posted by Ant Which is more likely? It was an Anglo-Saxon area, so it's far more likely - like the vast majority of place names surrounding it - to have an Anglo-Saxon origin. I can assure you, very few scots settled in that area. The Anglo-Saxon word for stone is stan. The word stane is a colloquial version of the same saxon name. There are countless place names in England containing "stan", all of which are Anglo Saxon in origin. Bringing the scots into the equation is needless.
Algy, you hit the nail on the head.
Not necessarily... after all are the Anglo-Saxons are an emalgum of both Saxons (Saxens/Saxans) and Angles.
Both Germanic...
The Scots also have Germanic influence... after all look how many invaders came from Scandinavia into Scotland and the north of England.
What I stated isn't right or wrong... I don't know the area, I was just suggestiong possibilities!!!
What I meant originally by not necessarily is, that Stang... originally came to England via Scotland... and 1st from Scandinavia. So if Stanage had a trade route with the north then some northern Germanic influence is possible?
Just as Saxon influence had an effect in southern Scotland.
It's still highly unlikely, mate. The celtic scots had their own language at that time - germanic influence was negligable. Would they really stop using their own word for stone to adopt a foreign one? Er, no. I think not.
And Stanage would not adopt a name simply because it's served by a trade route. You could just as well argue that it was settled by Norwegians, but why bother? Accept the most likely. The scottish origin is highly unfeasable. It's an Anglo-Saxon name, in Northumbria - an Anglo-Saxon kingdom. 'Nuff said.
Originally posted by Magister666 Not necessarily... after all are the Anglo-Saxons are an emalgum of both Saxons (Saxens/Saxans) and Angles.
Both Germanic...
The Scots also have Germanic influence... after all look how many invaders came from Scandinavia into Scotland and the north of England.
What I stated isn't right or wrong... I don't know the area, I was just suggestiong possibilities!!!
What I meant originally by not necessarily is, that Stang... originally came to England via Scotland... and 1st from Scandinavia. So if Stanage had a trade route with the north then some northern Germanic influence is possible?
Just as Saxon influence had an effect in southern Scotland.
Which all in all is really besides the point in relation to the fact that we were originally talking about the Stanage Pole.
