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22-04-2008, 16:08
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Scary stuff - Hilary Clinton said that if she was President the US would attack, and could "obliterate" Iran, if it launched a nuclear strike on Israel.
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22-04-2008, 16:11
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surely a nuclear strike would do much more as well?
its a fact but a bit like saying "If i destroyed the world, England wouldn't exist"
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22-04-2008, 16:11
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The word "if" being pretty important there.
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22-04-2008, 16:11
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I've said before and I will say again....doG help us if Hillary becomes president. But what are your thoughts on how we should handle Iran, with or without a strike on Israel?
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22-04-2008, 16:13
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Alistair, I'm sorry. I've completely misread your post.
I read it as saying "if Clinton became President and the US nuked Israel then it would obliterate Iran (due to the fallout)"
Whoops!!!
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22-04-2008, 16:14
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22-04-2008, 16:29
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I don't see what's scary about it. The only reason the nuclear deterrent works, and worked for fifty years, is because your potential enemies know that if they launch a nuclear attack, they are CERTAIN to die. Every last single one of them.
If Iran were foolish enough to launch a nuclear strike, then utter obliteration is the only course of action we can follow; be it by nuclear or conventional means.
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22-04-2008, 16:35
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Originally Posted by Heyesey
I don't see what's scary about it. The only reason the nuclear deterrent works, and worked for fifty years, is because your potential enemies know that if they launch a nuclear attack, they are CERTAIN to die. Every last single one of them.
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It's a different matter when your dealing with a country ruled by religion though isn't it, especially the religion that specialises in suicide bombing.
Come to think of it..... USA, Israel and Iran, all three are ruled by religious nutters.
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22-04-2008, 16:39
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It's a different matter when your dealing with a country ruled by religion though isn't it, especially the religion that specialises in suicide bombing..
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The politicians who rule the country (whichever religious-fanatic country we consider) may be red-hot on persuading OTHER people to commit suicide in pursuit of the cause, but there's no way in hell they will risk their own lives.
Take bin Laden. If blowing yourself up is the way to paradise and 72 virgins bowing to your every whim, why is he busily training other people for the great rewards and not trying to get it himself?
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22-04-2008, 16:39
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Come to think of it..... USA, Israel and Iran, all three are ruled by religious nutters.
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Then let them nuke away.
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22-04-2008, 16:46
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Oh, I see, Hilary would obliterate Iran if Iran attacked Israel.
But as it's unlikely that Iran would attack Israel first, I can only assume Hilary is seeking the pro-Israeli and rightwing Christian vote... Still, it must be reassuring to the likes of AIPAC and the ADL that the USA can be relied on to fight Israel's wars. Again.
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22-04-2008, 16:48
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We so don't need another clinton in the whitehouse.
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22-04-2008, 16:49
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Actually, I'm more concerned that Hilary would finish off her husband's "unfinished buisness" and attack Somalia again.
James Cameron's already been contacted by Hilary to produce the pre-invasion propaganda film. It's called Aliens
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22-04-2008, 16:51
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Oh, I see, Hilary would obliterate Iran if Iran attacked Israel.
But as it's unlikely that Iran would attack Israel first, I can only assume Hilary is seeking the pro-Israeli and rightwing Christian vote... Still, it must be reassuring to the likes of AIPAC and the ADL that the USA can be relied on to fight Israel's wars. Again.
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Spot on, she appears to have lost the lefties so she's going for the righties. Obama for the win but McCain for president. I might even have a bet but I'm not a gambling man.
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22-04-2008, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Alastair
Scary stuff - Hilary Clinton said that if she was President the US would attack, and could "obliterate" Iran, if it launched a nuclear strike on Israel.
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She wouldn't need to, the Israelis have their own nuclear weapons, and it's a fair bet where they're pointed, and their record on pre-emptive strikes is impeccable!
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22-04-2008, 17:24
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She wouldn't need to, the Israelis have their own nuclear weapons, and it's a fair bet where they're pointed, and their record on pre-emptive strikes is impeccable!
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Heh, too true. So it's all Clinton bluster then?
I'm for Obama now anyway. Especially after seeing his feeble impression of The Rock...
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22-04-2008, 17:40
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Perhaps the Iranians can defend themselves with weaponry (including potentially nuclear weaponry) supplied by UK arms dealers http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...armstrade.iran
Are arms dealers morally inferior, equivalent or superior to paedophiles? I can never tell.
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22-04-2008, 18:43
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Originally Posted by Alastair
Scary stuff - Hilary Clinton said that if she was President the US would attack, and could "obliterate" Iran, if it launched a nuclear strike on Israel.
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So if Iran did nuke Israel and you were president what would you do? Just let Iran's leader get away with it?
Might as well let this nutter know in advance what to expect if he has any ideas about chucking bombs around.
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Last edited by Harleyman; 22-04-2008 at 18:59.
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28-04-2008, 10:58
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Double standards as usual...
When Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he would wipe Israel off the map, he was slated by the west.
Hillary says she'll wipe Iran off the map - no one mentions a word
What would Hillary (if President but God lets hope not!) do to israel if they launched a pre-emptive nuclear strike against Iran - Wipe them off the planet? - I guess not
What we need are leaders who advocate peace not wars
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28-04-2008, 11:31
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