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Old 05-04-2008, 14:25   #1
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I am trying to replace a bay window radiator and purchase one for another room. Does anyone out there know where I can purchase two radiators and also find a good plumber to fit them
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Old 05-04-2008, 18:28   #2
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You normally have to buy them as straight radiators and then have them specially curved. I think there's one place in Hillsborough (don't know the name) that can curve radiators, but be aware that most places can only curve non-fin radiators, which often don't output enough heat. I know of one place down south (Greenfinch Engineering) that can curve fin radiators. Otherwise use the power of Google and the term "Curved Radiators"
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Old 05-04-2008, 19:38   #3
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Bay windows don't have curved radiators, but bow windows do, which is it?. also , plumbers can buy radiators at trade prices, so you may be as well getting a plumber to purchase them and fit them.
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Old 06-04-2008, 16:04   #4
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Thanks Scoobs72 googled earlier and have got one in Leeds, but don't measure or fit. I just wondered if there was one in Sheffield.

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Old 06-04-2008, 16:06   #5
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You normally have to buy them as straight radiators and then have them specially curved. I think there's one place in Hillsborough (don't know the name) that can curve radiators, but be aware that most places can only curve non-fin radiators, which often don't output enough heat. I know of one place down south (Greenfinch Engineering) that can curve fin radiators. Otherwise use the power of Google and the term "Curved Radiators"
a curved rad would look better in a bay window than 2 rads,i also heard of a place in hillsborough that could curve them,ask your plumber for advice
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:14   #6
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There is definately a company in Bristol that provides Curved and Angled radiators for bay windows. They are call Greenfinch Engineering and their website is greenfinchegineering.net
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:21   #7
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The bay window is not the best place for a radiator, since a lot of the heat disappears out of the window or through the outside wall - is this perhaps a chance to redesign the room so that the radiator backs onto another room? Or is the bay pretty much the only place you can put it?
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:04   #8
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The bay window is not the best place for a radiator, since a lot of the heat disappears out of the window or through the outside wall - is this perhaps a chance to redesign the room so that the radiator backs onto another room? Or is the bay pretty much the only place you can put it?
I thought it was generally accepted that the best place for a radiator is the coldest part of the room - usually under the window:

http://www.diyfixit.co.uk/diy/centra..._radiator.html

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Old 11-08-2008, 14:52   #9
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We used to have one and when we had a new central heating system we got rid of it. The plumber did say he could replace it easily enough, I dont have his number but it was Millhouses Plumbing anf Heating Services - should be able to find them in Yellow Pages.
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I thought it was generally accepted that the best place for a radiator is the coldest part of the room - usually under the window

Only if you want to heat up your garden.
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Only if you want to heat up your garden.
Under the windows is the right place for them. Heyesey, where are you getting this idea from? I have only ever seen/heard expert advice on this say to put them under windows.
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Old 11-08-2008, 18:37   #12
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Under the windows is the right place for them. Heyesey, where are you getting this idea from? I have only ever seen/heard expert advice on this say to put them under windows.
Exactly - he\'s totally wrong, seems to be classic case of a little information is a dangerous thing.
Placing the rads under windows promotes circulation of the warm air up around the room. If you have them against a warm wall, you\'ll tend to get much slower circulation and lots of warm air under the cieling, but not much where you\'re sat.

As for the shaping of rads, any reputable plumber can have that done. However, as earlier posters have mentioned, it\'s tricky with finned rads. I had to replace an old style low pressure rad in a bay when I moved into my current house and converted it to a combi system.
I was advised not to go for curved (because of the difficulty rolling them), but to go for a couple of bends. To be honest, with it in place you can\'t tell it\'s bent rather than curved - looks fine (and I\'m quite fussy).
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Exactly - he\'s totally wrong, seems to be classic case of a little information is a dangerous thing.

Maybe you should talk to someone who understands physics, instead of a mere engineer?
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Maybe you should talk to someone who understands physics, instead of a mere engineer?
Do you know such a person, somebody who applies physics in paid employment, and deals with fluid flow and energy transfer issues?
Those subjects are the stuff of engineers, for your edification. Who designs power stations - would that be engineers or physicists?

Perhaps, heaven forbid, a plumber - trained by a national body which has consulted with awfully clever engineers (but no physicists, seeing as it is nothing to do with their subject) - might know where best to put a radiator. He\'d tell you, under a window.

Or perhaps, you know a physicist that might be able to disprove that. He\'ll have to be good though - some engineers also have pretty good knowledge of physics, you will find.
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Old 11-08-2008, 19:45   #15
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The bay window is not the best place for a radiator, since a lot of the heat disappears out of the window or through the outside wall - is this perhaps a chance to redesign the room so that the radiator backs onto another room? Or is the bay pretty much the only place you can put it?
This looks like another,ill pretend that i know what im talking about post to me.

The placement of radiators is of great importance. The standard logic of radiator placement is that they should be placed under windows to counteract the downdraft of cold air from the window. If they are placed on the wall opposite a window they will set up a convection current in which hot air rises and sits at the top of the room and pulls cold air across the room from the window.
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This looks like another,ill pretend that i know what im talking about post to me.

The placement of radiators is of great importance. The standard logic of radiator placement is that they should be placed under windows to counteract the downdraft of cold air from the window. If they are placed on the wall opposite a window they will set up a convection current in which hot air rises and sits at the top of the room and pulls cold air across the room from the window.
I tried to tell him just the same - but no, he read a CSE physics book once, he knows better.
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