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Old 31-01-2005, 20:13   #1
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Heard on the radio today about a 12 year old girl who decided to take her parents car for a spin on Christmas Day...

This young girl got caught twice by the Police within the same day

What has puzzled me is... The youngster is now 13yrs and has been banned for 2 years... eh! 2 years ban for what? She'll only be 15 when her ban is up and by then she still wont be quite old enough to drive...

The ban should have been until the age of 20 or something... cause her a little frustration... whilst all her other mates are driving round in their flash cars...
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Old 31-01-2005, 20:15   #2
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I think the ban will start when she reaches the 'legal' driving age
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Old 31-01-2005, 20:17   #3
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why till 20 and not till 18?????
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I think the ban will start when she reaches the 'legal' driving age
I knew there would be a good explaination... but they didnt make it that clear on the radio... they made it sound as if the ban was going to start from the day of her court hearing!
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Old 31-01-2005, 20:20   #5
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Can you be banned from doing something that's illegal anyway?

Makes a mokery or the law ....
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Old 31-01-2005, 20:22   #6
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I believe it will be 2 years from her 17th Birthday otherwise as Angel said, no point in a ban really is there
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Old 31-01-2005, 20:36   #7
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but dont u guys think a 12 year old driving car god heaving puting her life at risk and not only that other lives too.do u have your say on such upbringing or may be the psychological factors or causes behind being independent quite at your age mechanism against her ego
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Old 31-01-2005, 21:22   #8
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but dont u guys think a 12 year old driving car god heaving puting her life at risk and not only that other lives too.do u have your say on such upbringing or may be the psychological factors or causes behind being independent quite at your age mechanism against her ego
Er.....pardon?
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Old 31-01-2005, 21:39   #9
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I believe it will be 2 years from her 17th Birthday otherwise as Angel said, no point in a ban really is there
I believe it will start from the day she applies for her first full licence as opposed to from her 17th birthday.
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Old 31-01-2005, 21:42   #10
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I believe it will start from the day she applies for her first full licence as opposed to from her 17th birthday.
But if she's banned she won't be able to apply for a licence right ?
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Old 31-01-2005, 22:05   #11
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Did you also see her chavscum parents on the TV video footage too?
There's no wonder she's an oxygen thief!

It beggars another question.
What are the Social Services doing with this family that allows a girl of 12 to get rat-assed & take their car? - which you can bet is taxpayer funded / mobility / disability.
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Old 31-01-2005, 22:58   #12
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I must admit I find this ban most bizarre. It's totally pointless.
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Old 01-02-2005, 02:19   #13
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I believe it will be 2 years from her 17th Birthday otherwise as Angel said, no point in a ban really is there
I'm not sure. I thought the ban would have commenced from the date of conviction but yes there seems little point, except that when she does come to insure her first car she will have it on her record, parhaps?
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Old 01-02-2005, 03:58   #14
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but dont u guys think a 12 year old driving car god heaving puting her life at risk and not only that other lives too.do u have your say on such upbringing or may be the psychological factors or causes behind being independent quite at your age mechanism against her ego
Good to see that creative writing course finally paid off!

Mobile phones certainly have a lot to answer for
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:09   #15
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but dont u guys think a 12 year old driving car god heaving puting her life at risk and not only that other lives too.do u have your say on such upbringing or may be the psychological factors or causes behind being independent quite at your age mechanism against her ego
yeah but no but yeah but, right, well you know like, anyway innit cos she said summink like that.

Are you trying to say - 'it wasn't the girl's fault' ?
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:22   #16
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yeah but no but yeah but, right, well you know like, anyway innit cos she said summink like that.

Are you trying to say - 'it wasn't the girl's fault' ?
Of course, it's Vicky Pollard in person!

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Old 01-02-2005, 09:20   #17
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I had the biggest laugh of the year when The Daily Telegraph ran the story. Why? Because her aunt (might be a misspelling there) said: She only did it for a laugh!

What the judge has basically said is: I can't do anything but hey, it'd be nice to see you in here again soon.

IT wants putting out of its misery if you ask me.
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Old 01-02-2005, 12:54   #18
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I'm not sure. I thought the ban would have commenced from the date of conviction but yes there seems little point, except that when she does come to insure her first car she will have it on her record, parhaps?
It defintely isn'tfrom the day of the conviction, you can't ban someone who can't legally drive. If you are given points e.g. for speeding, say when you are learning, they are put on your permanant licence when you get it. The person supervising you (i.e. your driving instructor) is also given points.

I'm just unsure as to whether it is from your 17th birthday or when you apply for your first full licence. If its from the 17th birthday it would have been pointless for me as I didn't start learning to drive until I was 20. And again in theory, it would be banning someone who cannot legally drive (without supervision).

I tried googling it but couldn't find anything.

To be honest although it seems pretty pointless, she will have extortionate insurance premiums for decades, if not the rest of her life so she may not be able to afford to drive anyway.
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Old 01-02-2005, 14:38   #19
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you can't ban someone who can't legally drive.
Yes you can. I've had (reformed) pupils who have had bans before they passed a driving test

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If you are given points e.g. for speeding, say when you are learning, they are put on your permanant licence when you get it. The person supervising you (i.e. your driving instructor) is also given points.
Almost right. Points obtained whilst a provisional licence holder are put on the licence at that time, and then carried forward onto the full licence. The supervising driver would not be convicted of the speeding offence (or whatever) but would be convicted of 'aiding and abetting'.
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Yes you can. I've had (reformed) pupils who have had bans before they passed a driving test



Almost right. Points obtained whilst a provisional licence holder are put on the licence at that time, and then carried forward onto the full licence. The supervising driver would not be convicted of the speeding offence (or whatever) but would be convicted of 'aiding and abetting'.
what's the point of the ban then? It's like taking a murder and telling them that they are banned from murdering?

It's already illegal for her to drive, why the hell should a ban on something she's not allowed to do anyway have any effect.
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