[PopT]

We keep reading about how much power our TV's and other appliances use when they is left on standby instead of being shut off.

I wonder how long it is before the manufacturers are going to take in altering them so that when you shut off they really shut the power off to save energy.

I often wonder if this energy saving is a waste of time sometimes, you hear of people having to travel miles to dump their sorted waste using more energy than they save.

Others spend more energy washing out bottles etc to take to the waste dumps.

The roadside waste collections are another problem, they are quite selective what they take and they still haven't provided the promised containers for different household waste.

We seem to be standing still on any changes for the better.

What do other forummers think?

[alchresearch]

I think businesses should turn off their lights at night. Have a wander around the city centre at night and the shops are fully lit like they're still open.

[AtticusFinch]

Originally Posted by PopT

We keep reading about how much power our TV's and other appliances use when they is left on standby instead of being shut off.

I wonder how long it is before the manufacturers are going to take in altering them so that when you shut off they really shut the power off to save energy.

I often wonder if this energy saving is a waste of time sometimes, you hear of people having to travel miles to dump their sorted waste using more energy than they save.

Others spend more energy washing out bottles etc to take to the waste dumps.

The roadside waste collections are another problem, they are quite selective what they take and they still haven't provided the promised containers for different household waste.

We seem to be standing still on any changes for the better.

What do other forummers think?

The manufacturers of electrical appliances shouldn't have to change their design so that they turn themselves off. We're adults and we're capable of doing it ourselves. I make a habit of walking round my house turning things off at plug sockets that I'm not using. I always turn my Sky+ box off at the wall unless I've specifically got something set to record. I also make sure that my internet router is switched off when I'm not using it.

It's just a case of getting into the right habits.

[Halibut]

Originally Posted by alchresearch

I think businesses should turn off their lights at night. Have a wander around the city centre at night and the shops are fully lit like they're still open.

Couldn't agree more alchresearch - it drives me mad! Do these people not realise they could cut their electricity bill by a third or a half if they switched off? It's absurd, it's p*ssing money down the drain.

[alchresearch]

It's very confusing in Manchester as some places in the city centre open 24 hours, some don't, yet the lights are on so you look a fool trying to go into a closed shop!