as you may be aware the old planet night club is reopening as 'f.a.b' and id like to wish the new owners all the success in the world.
im planning personally to reopen one of the other venues in the immediate vacinity, which will hopefully go on to act as a pre-bar for 'f.a.b' just as it did in earlier years.
sheffield and its gay scene is going to take off, soon, and i for one cannot wait.
I did wonder if this would be a viable thing to do myself. Good luck with it.
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I don't really know where the idea of Gay Clubs and Pubs having to be in the city centre comes from. You are far more at risk of being beaten up in the city centre than you are in any other location, I say that from an ex coppers point of view. Furthermore the rents are much cheaper out there which means less need to force everyone through the door and better prices at the bar.
All that needs to happen now is for enough places to open in that area for a small village to form, the city centre circuit then becomes irrelevant.
80's? 90's surely? Mind you, I did wonder about my mate Oliver who let me stay over in his pink painted house on Burngreave after being in the Norfolk Arms on Savile Street (great pint of James Foreshaw's) in the little snug there. All because my ex had the face on because I'd gone out, and she told me to bugger off for the night.
Sounds good to me and good luck with it. I remember the good old days of The Albert, Cavallears, The Bulldog, Indigo and of course The Club later Planet.
Well i think we are going backwards here. I really wouldn't want the gay scene of 1987 to get revived!
I think this is where generations clash. Older people living in the past ( down attercliffe) trying to relive the good times of the 80's etc but younger people want bars and clubs in the city centre. The simple fact is gays are changing now and have straight friends who are happy to go out with them so when in town go to mixture of str8 and gay bars. I know none of my friends would go into attercliffe for a drink so why should i?
I hear that to get in Planet you had to knock on the shutters. I just think it's degrading and shows the fact we are happy to be hid away again down attercliffe in a club that is closed off to anyone who doesn't know the special 'knock'. Hmmm
There's minimum details as yet so i'm trying to reserve my judgement but i'll defo give it ago one night.
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Well i think we are going backwards here. I really wouldn't want the gay scene of 1987 to get revived!
I think this is where generations clash. Older people living in the past ( down attercliffe) trying to relive the good times of the 80's etc but younger people want bars and clubs in the city centre. The simple fact is gays are changing now and have straight friends who are happy to go out with them so when in town go to mixture of str8 and gay bars. I know none of my friends would go into attercliffe for a drink so why should i?
I hear that to get in Planet you had to knock on the shutters. I just think it's degrading and shows the fact we are happy to be hid away again down attercliffe in a club that is closed off to anyone who doesn't know the special 'knock'. Hmmm
There's minimum details as yet so i'm trying to reserve my judgement but i'll defo give it ago one night.
hello, im still in my 20s (albeit late 20s) and believe me, you didnt have to knock on any shutters to get into the old Bar-Celona, Planet etc.
Well i think we are going backwards here. I really wouldn't want the gay scene of 1987 to get revived!
I think this is where generations clash. Older people living in the past ( down attercliffe) trying to relive the good times of the 80's etc but younger people want bars and clubs in the city centre. The simple fact is gays are changing now and have straight friends who are happy to go out with them so when in town go to mixture of str8 and gay bars. I know none of my friends would go into attercliffe for a drink so why should i?
I hear that to get in Planet you had to knock on the shutters. I just think it's degrading and shows the fact we are happy to be hid away again down attercliffe in a club that is closed off to anyone who doesn't know the special 'knock'. Hmmm
There's minimum details as yet so i'm trying to reserve my judgement but i'll defo give it ago one night.
I was reminiscing about the 80's not wishing for their return. Haven't been to a 'gay' pub or club for about 20+ years and wouldn't want to either. I've plenty of friends gay and straight happy to socialise as human beings rather than some kind of minority group, I just don't understand the 'there's no where for us to go' battle cry.
hello, im still in my 20s (albeit late 20s) and believe me, you didnt have to knock on any shutters to get into the old Bar-Celona, Planet etc.
It's just what my Boyfriend told me. If you're the owner or have something to do with the places named then it's up to you as a bussiness man/woman to change the image that i have perceived of the place.
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I was reminiscing about the 80's not wishing for their return. Haven't been to a 'gay' pub or club for about 20+ years and wouldn't want to either. I've plenty of friends gay and straight happy to socialise as human beings rather than some kind of minority group, I just don't understand the 'there's no where for us to go' battle cry.
My post wasn't directed at yours. Just the general replies this thread had recieved.
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In reply I agree that gay society has changed and many people want to mix their night out between straight and gay bars but it is a fact that you are more at "risk" in the city centre than you are in Attercliffe, even back in 1980's, attacks often happened outside The Cossack but never outside any of the Attercliffe Bars.
I am now in my 40's but when I was 17, 18 etc I went down Attercliffe walking between the bars and the club often wearing high heels and painted finger nails and I NEVER was attacked and some of the streets between the bars were dark and hidden away !! I can also confirm that you never had to bang on the door or have a secret code to get in the bars or club, often ques of people would form to get in to the club but Gary or Terry would be on the door with the door open, aslo the bear gardens at The Albert, Cavallears and the roof top terrace at The Bulldog were always busy. Oh and South Yorkshire Police use to work with the bar owners very well and often people went to the straight bars such as The Charlton before going gay.
If your straight mates respect you enough they won't mind the occassional trip down the cliff. Some of my straight mates still talk about the best nights out in the gay pubs of the cliff, my mother and aunt went to see the stripper at The Albert, much to my embarressment. If it's run and organised right and dosn't rip people off I don't see why it won't work.
The simple fact is gays are changing now and have straight friends who are happy to go out with them so when in town go to mixture of str8 and gay bars. I know none of my friends would go into attercliffe for a drink so why should i?
The question is why do you need to go to a gay bar at all ?
The question is why do you need to go to a gay bar at all ?
Don't ask me that. I just want to be myself and i am infact gay.
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What I mean is what are you going to the gay bar for, the decor, the music, the drinks, the interesting conversation, or just the change that you might get laid ?
Fair enough if you are going out to get laid, but unless that is the main reason you go out then you don't need to go to a gay bar.
I never experienced anyone shouting abuse from passing cars outside Planet / Bar-celona, unlike on Eyre Street.
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What I mean is what are you going to the gay bar for, the decor, the music, the drinks, the interesting conversation, or just the change that you might get laid ?
Fair enough if you are going out to get laid, but unless that is the main reason you go out then you don't need to go to a gay bar.
I have a boyfriend thankyou! I go to gay bars to be myself, (yes i am myself in straight bars but in other words i let myself go more), dance how i like and generally be round the same people who i actually have something in common with.
I also go for the music as i find some music that Fuel played quite good.
I think you are being pretty unreasonable here Nick, you should know why gay people go to gay bars. It aint all about pulling.
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In reply I agree that gay society has changed and many people want to mix their night out between straight and gay bars but it is a fact that you are more at "risk" in the city centre than you are in Attercliffe, even back in 1980's, attacks often happened outside The Cossack but never outside any of the Attercliffe Bars.
I am now in my 40's but when I was 17, 18 etc I went down Attercliffe walking between the bars and the club often wearing high heels and painted finger nails and I NEVER was attacked and some of the streets between the bars were dark and hidden away !! I can also confirm that you never had to bang on the door or have a secret code to get in the bars or club, often ques of people would form to get in to the club but Gary or Terry would be on the door with the door open, aslo the bear gardens at The Albert, Cavallears and the roof top terrace at The Bulldog were always busy. Oh and South Yorkshire Police use to work with the bar owners very well and often people went to the straight bars such as The Charlton before going gay.
If your straight mates respect you enough they won't mind the occassional trip down the cliff. Some of my straight mates still talk about the best nights out in the gay pubs of the cliff, my mother and aunt went to see the stripper at The Albert, much to my embarressment. If it's run and organised right and dosn't rip people off I don't see why it won't work.
I see what you mean. I'm willing to give these places a chance. I just feel a bit uneasy to start with going down to Attercliffe. Everyone I've spoken to on Facebook etc about this have thought it's a terrible idea to open bars and clubs down there. It's just the general opinion I've got. I just wish that people who were willing to open bars/clubs actually did research into their market rather than just sending them a message and because it's gay everyone will go.
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