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Old 29-10-2004, 14:52   #1
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Chelsea have done what in my opinion is right and sacked Adrian Mutu. Any sportsman or woman who is caught taking drugs should have a life time ban, let's hope the FA are strong enough to do the right thing too. What do you think?
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Old 29-10-2004, 15:40   #2
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I'm inclined to agree and Rio Ferdinand should have got at least a 3 year ban.
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Old 29-10-2004, 15:46   #3
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About time! what a complete t***er! What kind of message is that giving out to kids? . . almost as bad as being a Sheff Utd fan.
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Old 29-10-2004, 16:16   #4
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Some of you people are so backwards it's unreal. It's like watching trisha with you lot.
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Old 29-10-2004, 16:39   #5
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Old 29-10-2004, 17:41   #6
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I'm inclined to agree and Rio Ferdinand should have got at least a 3 year ban.
hmmmmm why should he? he failed a drugs test, something which he took 24 hours later testing NEGATIVE


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About time! what a complete t***er! What kind of message is that giving out to kids? . . almost as bad as being a Sheff Utd fan.
Even on a thread relating to chelsea/mutu, there is always one WEDNESDAY fan that has to bring up some comparison to united!!

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Old 29-10-2004, 17:53   #7
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il explain for him





hmmmmm why should he? he failed a drugs test, something which he took 24 hours later testing NEGATIVE




Even on a thread relating to chelsea/mutu, there is always one WEDNESDAY fan that has to bring up some comparison to united!!
i dont think it had anything to do with that you know
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Old 29-10-2004, 19:17   #8
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[B]il explain for him

hmmmmm why should he? he failed a drugs test, something which he took 24 hours later testing NEGATIVE
Ferdinand deliberately dodged a drug test. Any other sport and he would not have been getting off so lightly with an 8 months punishment.
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Old 29-10-2004, 19:47   #9
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15-16 million down the swanny!.
I wonder if Abramovich will even notice?
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Old 29-10-2004, 20:07   #10
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Can't fault Chelsea at all here. IMO this is Integrity with a capital 'I'

Now it has come to light that Chelsea themselves requested that the player be tested, I wonder if any of the other giant clubs would have been so noble? Going by recent history probably not.

Hopefully this young sniffer will be handed a severe ban.
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Old 29-10-2004, 22:49   #11
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I'm inclined to agree and Rio Ferdinand should have got at least a 3 year ban.
he wasn't proven to have taken drugs, hence why he didn't turn up for the test
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Old 29-10-2004, 22:53   #12
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On a similar note, I always thought it was a bit shady how another foreign Man Utd player made a swift exit out of the club.
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On a similar note, I always thought it was a bit shady how another foreign Man Utd player made a swift exit out of the club.
I agree! very . He was just about the best defender in the country at the time.
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Old 30-10-2004, 00:25   #14
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Ferdinand deliberately dodged a drug test. Any other sport and he would not have been getting off so lightly with an 8 months punishment.
people forget things,
it was not all his fault, yes he should have taken the test that day, and no there is no excuse for him not doing so, but he should not have been allowed tom leave the training ground

anyways as for mutu
maximum 2 years ban for him, but it looks like he will get 6 months
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Old 30-10-2004, 10:23   #15
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I don't condone what Mutu did, and I'm not making excuses for him, but I think Chelsea's decision to boot him out had little to do with him snorting cocaine.

Many footballers have done far worse, and been backed to the hilt by their clubs. Lickszz provided the example of Man Utd and Rio Ferdinand, and let's not forget Woodgate and Bowyer at Leeds.

And, of course, Chelsea's own assistant coach Graham Rix who was found guilty of under age sex with a 15 year old.

I've read reports that was a clash of personalities 'tween Mutu and the Chelsea manager, so I'm inclined to believe snorting coke was the perfect excuse to get rid.

Remember folks, before you hit that reply button to shoot me down in flames, please reread my first paragraph.
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Old 30-10-2004, 10:58   #16
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Maybe we should bring in drug testing for all jobs, and everyone that takes drugs can be out of work... oh wait... then we'd have about 25% unemployment... gosh... then maybe we should try and help the people who can't cope with a life without drugs, or just accept that people make mistakes every now and again... hmmm...
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Old 30-10-2004, 11:05   #17
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On a similar note, I always thought it was a bit shady how another foreign Man Utd player made a swift exit out of the club.
I'm not saying you're completely wrong, but he did bring out his autobiography slating Ferguson. I don't think any manager would let that go!
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Old 30-10-2004, 12:03   #18
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abdul, if you read the full reports on why he was booted, it was not just because of the rift he had with manager and snorting cocaine!!

He excluded himself from the group many times


here is what mourinho had to say about it

''The thing that concerns me most is that this is his private life,'' said Mourinho. ''Players for big teams have a very big responsibility.

''I can imagine how disappointed thousands of Romanian kids are. Adrian is the best player in Romania, he is their captain, their star.

''Thousands of kids are in love with him. He has a big responsibility to them. His situation is not easy. He has personal problems.

''But now it is finished between us. Even if he comes back to football I wouldn't sign him.

''Not just because of the drugs but because he called me a liar.''

Mourinho continued to reveal that he had major concerns over Mutu's private life since the moment he arrived at Stamford Bridge and that he even challenged the forward on the first day of training in pre-season.

''When I met Mutu on his first day in pre-season, he was with his agents, Mr Becali and Mr Popescu. I told them 'I have information you are on cocaine','' continued Mourinho.

''All three laughed and denied it. They said it was all a big lie and maybe there are lies about him because last season he behaved strangely at the club and in his social life.

''After that, I didn't speak with him again because they denied the situation.

''But for a long time, we felt now and again he was behaving strangely. Sometimes he was happy, sometimes not so.

''Sometimes he was involved with the group, sometimes isolated.

''He arrived late a few times and other times didn't come in at all. He was also injured when nobody knows when and how.

''These were strange things. We spoke about it at the club.

''Was he pushing us to let him go in the transfer window? Did he want to start a conflict and go to another place? Or is he involved in other things? Questions were starting to be asked.''

Mourinho's doubt over his player's alleged playboy lifestyle convinced him to bring in drug testers, in a move that confirmed his worst suspicions.

''We didn't speak much about his future. It was more for him to hear what we had to say rather than to meet,'' he said.

''Everybody was involved in the decision. Every decision made by my club, I support.

''The club bought him to play football. At this moment, he has been out of competition for a long period.

''The first one to break the relation was the player. He cannot complain and the club cannot be painted as the guilty party.

"We did everything to give him a good professional life. As he admitted in some interviews, it has been a personal problem for a long period. It is his fault.

''He is human, a young man, his life must now go in the right direction.

''The statement from the club is very clear. We have a code of conduct and drugs were included in a very specific way.

''It's the best way to show we mean business.''



i think even if he had not had a rift with mourinho, he would still be out of the club to be honest!!!

man utd did not get rid of ferdinand as they could not afford to replace him, and there is very litttle out there better thn him!!

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Old 30-10-2004, 12:24   #19
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Thanks for your response Robbie_Lovin; I found it an interesting read.

However, all of Mourinho's comments and your final sentence:

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...don't explain why Chelsea were supportive of assistant coach and convicted paedophile Graham Rix
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Thanks for your response Robbie_Lovin; I found it an interesting read.

However, all of Mourinho's comments and your final sentence:



...don't explain why Chelsea were supportive of assistant coach and convicted paedophile Graham Rix

is he still down there??

anyways.... that was pre-abromavich i suppose!!

but yeah abdul, agreed you have a good point there!!
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