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Old 01-04-2007, 14:41   #81
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So are corner shops, if you see what i mean? But most people use Tesco.

The difference is these same people worship and adore bands who get popular through advertising and dubious marketing practices but hate supermarkets for doing the same.
That's because liking that music makes them unique and special!
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Old 01-04-2007, 17:12   #82
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I always liked what I liked and that was that (my music collection is at times quite horrific in the combos I own - heh), but up until a few years ago I'd always lend an ear to guitar based 'indie' bands (can they really be called 'indie' these days?). Then I suddenly found that the albums I was buying were to be honest a bit crap - one or two good songs and loads of filler, none of the madness I loved, too much 'anthemic' stuff, which was so often just droning and pompous. I stopped bothering with reviews and stopped buying a lot of that stuff. Though there are notable exceptions.

I find bands have one or two good songs and the rest is tripe. Bands like Snow Patrol, keane, Coldplay etc bore me, they may have the odd good single but they're unsatisfying. A bit like traditional pop groups unfortunately and it's better to wait for the 'Best of' sadly. The 'angrier', more eccentric 'indie' bands tend to be the ones to go for in my experience.

Why? I think it's because unlike in the 80s and earlier, new bands now have no time to 'develop' and grow. It used to be that new bands struggled for a while and had small fan bases, but now they go straight to number one and are plunged straight into the whole marketing merry-go-round, have no time to grow, play endless grotty little clubs, get a 'story' and a reputation, have 'experiences' to build that difficult second and third album around. The Darkness are a prime example of why quick marketing doesn't work: first album - amusing nutters, second album - bloated rock stars. Pulp were quickly destroyed by their (eventual) success. So were the Stone Roses.

It's not just 'throwaway pop' that's throwaway nowadays alas. I've a lot of very good first albums here by recent bands that I suspect will remain the only copies of their albums I own.

As for other genres of music, I like just about everything apart from reggae, X-Factor pop, formula indie and opera. Oh and 'synth music' isn't soulless, there's some that's pure Art - Aphex Twin, Daft Punk, etc, plus that's the genre where you get the interesting situationists, people like the KLF. And some of the very best music crosses genres and defies them, people like Martin Bennet (RIP) and Stereolab and The Fall. Fabulous stuff.
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Old 02-04-2007, 21:32   #83
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I think Mathom has a valid point about bands not having time to develop, their fame is not earned through hard work and complacency soon sets in.
I love bands who only have a small fanbase because they really are trying to impress and put their heart and soul into their music. Those that are rich and famous dont need to work at it anymore so laziness and complacency sets in.
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Old 02-04-2007, 21:38   #84
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I hardly listen to anything in the charts...well not the UK charts anyway.. I trawl myspace for bands.

although i DO like a big fat commerical sounding over produced album... go figure!
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Old 02-04-2007, 23:52   #85
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The music in the charts that is if you can call some of it music! since the 80's which is as far back as I can remember anyhow, has mostly been for gullible impressionable people who buy or download now a record more for its 'coolness' rather than for because they actually like that particular piece of music.
Having said that though you do seem to get more people now doing exactly the same for the credibility of the music not been in the charts!
I think its all down to the fact that a lot of people are easily manipulated through advertising & the media which is also the case for fashion, mobile phones, political issues, HDTV etc....
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Maybe they just like it?
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interesting thread...i like guitar music, including the shins - love them - and pj harvey, but also some of the more popular stuff listed (right now the killers are my faves along with the aforementioned shins), however i also like some 80s synth based stuff (tears for fears and omd are both groups who released tracks that touched me - enola gay anyone?). i also like folk, some soul, americana, some 'pop', and i have world and classical music in my collection, as well as some chillout stuff.

i agree with you norbert's observation on pop idol stuff, and the acknowledgement of why people like this kind of stuff, but it's pretty much the only stuff that i won't entertain (as it doesn't entertain me!).
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