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Old 25-11-2006, 15:07   #1
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As they saying goes, do you think they do? If so what is the reward of the considerate? Is it the safety of knowledge that they aren't ignorant?
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Old 25-11-2006, 15:19   #2
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i suppose they do, theres nothing to say they dont
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Old 25-11-2006, 15:37   #3
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Wasnt he writing about the boys of Eton ready to be sent thre trenches in WW1, and saying they were ignorant of the horror.
As they did not know what was to befall them, it would be folly to be wise and tell them?
In many cases where ignorance is bliss, it is indeed folly to be wise, espescially on SF
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Old 25-11-2006, 15:43   #4
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In many cases where ignorance is bliss, it is indeed folly to be wise, espescially on SF
What did you mean by "SF"?
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Old 25-11-2006, 15:52   #5
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Sometimes I wish I was thick and ignorant and could bask in the glorious bliss of not knowing what's really goin' on, in such depth, colour, size and smell. .
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Old 25-11-2006, 15:56   #6
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Check out my signature if you will. In some cases ignorance IS officially bliss. There's a few things going on in this world and even this city that I'd rather not have to worry about so not knowing makes my life a little more stress free. I'd rather just have to worry about how my family and friends' lives are going so that I'm not spreading myself too thin worrying about stuff that I can do nothing about anyway. If this makes me 'thick and ignorant' in certain people's eyes then so be it.

Sorry if this offends any of you world-savers out there.
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Old 25-11-2006, 16:04   #7
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Worryin' is about as useful as trying to solve an algebra equasion by chewing bubble gum. .

But yer right about the goin's on that you can do without, these are the things im sure just pass the ignorants by completeley.
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Old 25-11-2006, 16:06   #8
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Worryin' is about as useful as trying to solve an algebra equasion by chewing bubble gum. .
A quote from the 'Sunscreen' song yes?
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Old 25-11-2006, 16:07   #9
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Yup, spot on. .
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Old 25-11-2006, 16:13   #10
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It couldnt have been about WW1 as it was in written in the late 18th century, it must have beensome other worthwhile, humanitarian war that he was writing about.
Just showing my blissful ignorance earlier.
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Old 25-11-2006, 16:50   #11
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Depends on your value set, and what makes you happy. For me, no - a little knowledge only makes me desire more and through learning more about what is really going on, I feel more in control and more able to participate meaningfully in the world.

These things are important to me, other people might find happiness through simpler activities, getting drunk on a friday night etc. - it seems that this might often (albeit not always) be more because their ignorance constrains them into such a fettered world and they simply don't know what else there is to do, than because of a conscious choice, however.

Admittedly knowledge does make you something of a minority and in my case it has distanced me from the enjoyment I used to get out of what I now think of as 'closed' activities, where there is no long term progression or far-reaching consequence and actions only have any effect in relatively very small-scale, human, social terms. As in the aforementioned getting ****** on a friday night; in summary, only a few people are going to notice and fewer will care, there is no or little self developmental gain (possibly even losses) and it is impossible to affect those outside the pub (or at the most town) who are at a similar level, there is very little chance of long term effects or a stab at historical notoriety (again in a larger scale context). This seems like an almost complete waste of time to me now (there are certain special circumstances that might make it less so).

I realise how little many social considerations really matter, for similar reasons. For someone to only ever use their time in a social context and to prioritise this above other things seems odd to me, when I know that it is not going to change anything important whatsoever. A lot of wasted lives, really, whose only actions pertained to other wasted lives, none of who will be widely remembered or regarded once passed their brief existence and none of whom will leave any legacy to future generations.
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Old 25-11-2006, 17:40   #12
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As they saying goes, do you think they do? If so what is the reward of the considerate? Is it the safety of knowledge that they aren't ignorant?
Yes, I do. Living in bliss is the only way forward. Great life, no problems. Highly recommend it.
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Halibut seems happy enough.
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Old 25-11-2006, 18:13   #14
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Halibut seems happy enough.
http://www.finefishing.com/1saltfish/alaska/trophy.htm
They seem to live a blissful existence bottom feeding around the worlds oceans.
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