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Old 23-11-2006, 16:33   #1
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I must confess when I saw this story, I thought it must be a spoof. But, lo and behold, its 'hug a hoodie' Dave's latest initiative to capture the yoof vote.

Talk about motes and beams! There certainly seems to be an 'inner tosser' struggling to get out in the upper echelons of the Tory party at the moment.

Whenever toffs like 'call me Dave' Cameron seek to reach down to the lower orders in order to communicate or 'empathise' with them, they never quite get the demotic speech right. Instead, we get a lot of patronising and demeaning 'how are ya guys' faux mateyness which fools only the chi chi Chelsea set PR groupies, who appear to constitute the inner, outer and utter tosser Cameron's natural mileau.

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Old 23-11-2006, 16:53   #2
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I tend to read these small sound bites of utter nonsense with a gleeful glint in my old eyes but this one encapsulated everything there is to be said......Quote............"We've decided that rather than doing what political parties have always done - criticising each other and making promises about what they would do if they got elected – we'd like to try and make a difference now," Please? Make my day...............stop patronising me .... make a difference.............cover yourselves in blood then jump naked into a pool of sharks...........result !
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Old 23-11-2006, 16:57   #3
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That is a cringing site! Must have cost a few few bob too!
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Old 23-11-2006, 17:05   #4
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Don'tcha just love these ar***oles!

'Nuff said!

It's in my bookmarks when I need a gud laff.
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Old 23-11-2006, 17:22   #5
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This cannot be real, it is like something out of a parallel universe.
Is the same Tory party that dignified people like Harold Macmillan once led.
The party of Winston Churchill and Enoch Powell.
There must be some dreadful mistake.
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Old 23-11-2006, 17:30   #6
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This cannot be real, it is like something out of a parallel universe.
Is the same Tory party that dignified people like Harold Macmillan once led.
The party of Winston Churchill and Enoch Powell.
There must be some dreadful mistake.
No, artisan! I may disagree with you from time to time, as you know, but this team may end up running this nation!

Scary, innit!
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Old 23-11-2006, 17:45   #7
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The poor man is obviously tryig to distance himself form the THATCHER years. He doesnt want us to think that hes about to turn back the clock to when that harridan was prime minister so hes trying hard to appear soft.
Trouble is, hes just coming across as soft in the head.
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Old 23-11-2006, 22:50   #8
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Aw, come on, you Dudes, lighten-up and chill-out, man, innit?

I fink, Dave, man, has hit the spot, right ? We gotta gerraway from that blue-rinse brigade, innit? This is the 21st. century, man, an' us Tories gorra a whole heap o' s**t to shift, man if we gonna get that middle ground and all dem Youfs wiv us.

Anyways round, wot good did that Churchill dude do ? Only invaded Poland and gorruz all into a war, innit ? And vat Margaret Fatcher, she killed all dem miners and nicked all dere milk, din't she ? So, come on, get wiv it, you guys and gals. Fink Johnathen Ross, fink Noel Edmonds, forget all dat politics stuff and move Right On !!
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Old 23-11-2006, 23:54   #9
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One can only presume Polly Tonybee will be Home Secretary if Cameron gets to be PM Would personally have loved to see what "Peter Simple (RIP)" made of this.

Come on you Tories - there can't be that many of you left in the party these days - gives your opponents back the party we all hated / loved. Or is it time for an alliance of the folks who take politics seriously against the "pretty vacants".
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Old 23-11-2006, 23:57   #10
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Anything's better than this current lot, when can get this country back on it's feet?
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Old 24-11-2006, 00:34   #11
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Aw, come on, you Dudes, lighten-up and chill-out, man, innit?

I fink, Dave, man, has hit the spot, right ? We gotta gerraway from that blue-rinse brigade, innit? This is the 21st. century, man, an' us Tories gorra a whole heap o' s**t to shift, man if we gonna get that middle ground and all dem Youfs wiv us.

Anyways round, wot good did that Churchill dude do ? Only invaded Poland and gorruz all into a war, innit ? And vat Margaret Fatcher, she killed all dem miners and nicked all dere milk, din't she ? So, come on, get wiv it, you guys and gals. Fink Johnathen Ross, fink Noel Edmonds, forget all dat politics stuff and move Right On !!
History’s definitely not your subject. Churchill did not ‘invade’ Poland. It was our pact with Poland that took us to war. Thatcher only killed the collieries, not the miners (although they died as a result), but she did nick the milk. And if we all ‘fink Jonothan Ross’ we might as well give up altogether!
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Old 24-11-2006, 00:36   #12
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Anything's better than this current lot, when can get this country back on it's feet?
If your comment is directed at the proposal of the OP regarding the state of the Tories I'd agree.

Regarding the country as a whole we are in a far better state than most of our European neighbours although I think that we are poor as a country at managing industry as opposed to commerce.
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Old 24-11-2006, 06:35   #13
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History’s definitely not your subject. Churchill did not ‘invade’ Poland. It was our pact with Poland that took us to war. Thatcher only killed the collieries, not the miners (although they died as a result), but she did nick the milk. And if we all ‘fink Jonothan Ross’ we might as well give up altogether!
I sincerely hope that this post is fighting irony with irony, if not, its time to give up I think.
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Old 24-11-2006, 07:07   #14
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I sincerely hope that this post is fighting irony with irony, if not, its time to give up I think.
Artisan, you just beat me to it! I was too busy chuckling at what Fareast wrote to reply straight away
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Old 24-11-2006, 09:23   #15
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I think the previous careers (however short they were) of the current incumbents of the main parties provide telling insights into the nature of their leaderships.

Blair was a lawyer and his speciality since he became PM has been verbal flim-flam of one kind or another and shyster lawyerese;

Cameron worked in Public Relations and under his leadership we can expect a never ending procession of PR stunts.
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Old 24-11-2006, 09:29   #16
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the Tories really need to get a grip.. they wont win any general elections with this plank in charge!!
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Old 24-11-2006, 09:52   #17
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the Tories really need to get a grip.. they wont win any general elections with this plank in charge!!
Why not? New Labour did, three times. Oh, sorry that was the other plank!
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Old 24-11-2006, 10:03   #18
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Exactly, it's an old con trick now and people are wise to it. It shows the desperation and lack of imagination of the tories, that the best they can come up with is to copy what labour did nine years ago under a completely different set of circumstances.

Still, I wouldn't be suprised if people voted for them out of sheer desperation.
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Anyone remember when there was more than two political parties?
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Old 24-11-2006, 11:21   #20
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The Tory party at the moment seems to be suffering an acute case of the Gorbachev syndrome. Gorbachev was appointed as head of the CPSU in 1985 to modernise the party and the Soviet Union. He was not regarded as a radical reformer at the time. However, he ushered in forces which he could not control and destroyed the communist party and the Soviet Union in the process (I have no problem with that).

It seems to me that Cameron's efforts to modernise the party could also end up by destroying it. This does not mean to say that the party he is leading will not achieve electoral success. But it will not be the Tory party any more (in anything but name). This raises the key issue of where Tories who are commited to the traditional core values of the party will go?
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