We do have a good Police Force, But like most institutions there are good and bad. Unfortunately there are far too many bad Police. I do sympathise with many of the things they have to put up with, But as one reply said, " They Bring This Upon Themselves ". However, One Black British Boy close to me tried to have an officer charged with Racism, Why ? Because he was stopped twice in one evening, On the second time several youths had backed up the boy, The Police walked away. Now. I have a Nephew that has no criminal record, He has been stopped several times in one evening alone. Even twice on the way to work, Making him late. I must add, Most times by the same officer. He does not cry Racism, His friends do not face up to the police for him. It is difficult for Officers that have to stop and search. So many times criminals go undetected because the officer is afraid of accuzations being made. Finaly reporting crime is becoming a post code lottery.. Hence far too much unreported crime keeping the crime figures down a little
Originally posted by RODGERS Finaly reporting crime is becoming a post code lottery.. Hence far too much unreported crime keeping the crime figures down a little
Forgive me, but i don't understand this... how does your post code have anything to do with reporting crime... why is it a lottery?
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Like many services, Where you live decides the quality of service. ie, If you live in my area and are burgled, You will be given a crime number over the phone, The Police will call the following day ( If they remember ) to take a statement. If you live in an affluent area, The Police are there within minutes, Car crime is rife, Yet try reporting your car stolen if you live on a run down Council Estate like Manor. Parson's cross etc. Drug dealing. Report a drug dealer here in Shirecliffe, The Police do not want to know. Yet there are areas where the drug squad will act immediately... I cannot remember the last time I saw a police officer on my road ( a main road ) Yet There are many patrolling areas like Nether Edge, Fox Houise and Grindleford etc.
Originally posted by RODGERS Like many services, Where you live decides the quality of service. ie, If you live in my area and are burgled, You will be given a crime number over the phone, The Police will call the following day ( If they remember ) to take a statement. If you live in an affluent area, The Police are there within minutes, Car crime is rife, Yet try reporting your car stolen if you live on a run down Council Estate like Manor. Parson's cross etc. Drug dealing. Report a drug dealer here in Shirecliffe, The Police do not want to know. Yet there are areas where the drug squad will act immediately... I cannot remember the last time I saw a police officer on my road ( a main road ) Yet There are many patrolling areas like Nether Edge, Fox Houise and Grindleford etc.
So not really a lottery then?
What you say may be true, i don't know. I do know that i reported a crime on a property in what is officially Sharrow, that comes under the goverments list of deprived areas, and the police and forensics both came out that morning. That was for really what just amounted to a broken window.
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i really do think those comments are a massive generalisation, how do you know how many crimes are officially reported in each area and the response rates for those calls?
As for cries of racism, i don't know about sheffield, but in london you are 4 times more likely to be involved in a random stop and search if you are a black man aged 16-25 than if you are white.
And I think the case of stephen lawrence and the way it was handled shows that, like all institutions, the police did have its problems. Hopefully, these are being ironed out as we speak.
Hopefully it is being ironed out, and it's not perfect, but the facts are that there are proportionally more crimes detected by black men than white men.
Now you could argue all sorts of things around that, but they are the facts. The Police live in the real world, and they have to deal with real criminals on the streets.
There is racism in the Police, but it's lessensing, and ideas like banning officers from the BNP are good moves towards this.
Don't get carried away with the idea that they 'stop and search' lots of strangers. Stop and Search is used mainly on KNOWN criminals.
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This reminds me of an occasion many years ago when I attended a late-night party, had rather too much drink and decided to sleep it off in the back of the car.
I was awoken by a police constable who asked what I was doing there. I explained, pointing to the only house with lights still on. "Do you have the car keys in your pocket, Sir." (He adressed me as Sir, which PCs don't seem to do anymore)
"Why, yes, I think so"
"Then might I suggest, Sir, that you return to the house and deposit them there?"
"Why would I want to do that."
"Because, Sir, it is an offence to be drunk in charge of a motor vehicle."
"But I have have no intention of driving"
"That may be so, Sir, but it is still an offence. Please do as I say."
"Very well officer, thank you"
"Not at all, Sir. Goodnight."
"Goodnight, officer."
Towards the end of the days when police and public still saw each other as being on the same side, not potential enemies.
Judges, politicians and the Lord Chancellor are the bane of society - not the criminals - or the police.
If the judges did their jobs properly there'd be appropriate sentences.
If the politicians lived in the real world there'd be enough money to fund a decent prison service.
And if the Lord Chancellor functioned at all then the entire legal system may begin to serve society.
And if this happened there'd be fewer criminals and less need for police...
But seriously - the UK could make a fortune exporting mercenaries to the most dangerous parts of the world - a kind of extreme National Service - broadcast it and we could further the economy with television rights.
Oh, oops I forgot - we did it already in Iraq.
But if we sent nuisance kids at 15 out to Iraq with a dodgy boar war rifles or something then we'd surely see a decline in domestic crime?
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But if we sent nuisance kids at 15 out to Iraq with a dodgy boar war rifles or something then we'd surely see a decline in domestic crime?
Why are people constantly wanting to train and arm anti-social youth? Instead of hanging around street corners with mobile phones they'd be there with uzis and ak47s. Heaven help us then.
Incidentally, what did the boars do to warrant us declaring war on them? Is there oil in them thar pigs?
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im not happy with the way the police are dealing with things,my mates daughter whos just 5yrs old nearly got knocked down by a asian lad on a little motorbike riding on a path then before that i nearly got knocked down i rang the police to make a complaint they said they would come out and see me but they never showed up.
...but just so you know... it's South Yorkshire POLICE, not CONSTABULARY. Don't gripe back, I hate myself enough already for making the effort to register just to write that!!
just to keep you all updated. the burgler was given bail and curfewed as i said - he then skipped bail. About 3 weeks later he was caught again, and for some reason which I don't understand, given bail again, and guess what, he skipped bail again - that's the latest, he hasn't been caught since he last skipped bail. But am i right in thinking its the judge that grants bail not the police?
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) will (in the case of repeat offenders) generally request either bail with conditions, or a remand in custody. However, their defence solicitor will fight against it, for unconditional bail etc. The magistrate or judge will make that decision.
just to keep everyone updated, our burgler has been sentanced to 4 months imprisonment. His assistant has been sentanced to a 12 month rehabilitation order and has to pay us compensation.
Once again, I am impressed with the police's actions with this case and they have done a very good job of keeping us informed.
Are you kidding me? My boyfriend had his car broken into, fortunatley they didn't manage to take anything. The police came but didn't even bother to have a good look at his car never mind take prints. They didn't even look inside the car, it was the next morning before we realised they'd tried to get the stereo out. Do me a favour, they haven't done him any. Kids seem to get away with anything and the police appear powerless against them!!
well i was only speaking of my own experiences which have been of the Hammerton Road division and the Sheffield Magistrates Court. Of course not everyone can be having great experiences with the police, and i'm sure there is room for improvement, but other than prevent the crime in the first place, I think the police did a good job in our case.
Originally posted by HarrietStar Well, we were burgled not so long ago, which was nice. But id just like to say what a good service the police gave. I recieved a nice information pack with free stickers for windows and a invisable pen thing to write my postcode on things and today i recieved a letter explaining about what had happened to the people who they caught. it was all very comforting.
so a big thank you to the Hamerton Road police, you were great, thank you!
Whats an invisable pen ? sounds interesting, what do you have to do with it ?
It's ink that only shows up under ultra violet light.
So you can have your name/address/postcode written on your DVD player without anyone knowing, then if it's nicked and recovered, they'll know who's it is.
Originally posted by markham Someone watching their every move. People ready to bombard them with complaints every time one of them looks to be over-enthusiastic with an arrest, irrespective of how much of a kicking the villain is handing out. Stupid judges undoing all their hard work. Lack of manpower. Accusations of racism. Social workers. The list goes on!
