[Birth-Peace]

As most of you know Rich and I are the proud new parents of a beautiful little puppy but we are getting a little unstuck with how to train him to wee and poo outside.

When we first got him, a week ago, he was really good at going for poos outside but he seems to have regressed and could be outside all day but still comes in to wee and poo.

What shall we do?

Help us please.

[Classic Rock]

Get a dog cage. Dogs don't like to foul in the area which they sleep in. They'll hold it til they get out of it. Then you let it outside. The dog sleeps in the cage and if you go out the dog stays in there.

I've got one up for sale, it's only 2 months old. I bought it for £70, selling for £50.

Also get into the routine of feeding and then half an hour later letting the dog out (or get used to its biological clock).

[kittenta]

when mine did that i went back to training her to use the paper and slowly moved it closer to the door! Doesn't always work though. Just keep going as you are, lots of praise for doing it outside and maybe a quick play too. Some people tell their dogs no or some just ignore when they do it inside, it depends on you and your pet. He will get it eventually.

Good luck

[bluesandtwos]

dont expect miracles too quickly, particularly at night as small pups have little bladders. we used the paper technique with our first two and gradually moved it outside, before doing away with it all together. the other 4 here have more or less learned from the older dogs and have done very little in the house from the word go (no paper here at all). be sure to take your pup out:
after feeding (ours seem to perform pretty much immediatly after)
when he wakes up from a sleep
if you see him sniff and circle
if he asks you (whines, goes to the door etc)
first thing in a morning when he wakes
before you go to bed
also be prepared to take him outside a couple of times in the night and encourage him to go (we say "have a wee")

alway give praise when he gets it right, we use a stern "NO" for going in the house, nothing more. be sure if he goes in the house to clean it and use a deoderiser to remove the scent, which will deter him from using the same spot again
Is your pup a boy or girl?, if you have a boy, you will crack the houstraining, till he starts maturing, then you may encounter 'spraying'. this is not peeing in the house, but him territory marking by cocking his leg up furniture etc, also a bit tougher to break the habit (gone through that here fairly recently)

GOOD LUCK

[Grandad.Malky]

Originally Posted by Classic Rock

Get a dog cage. Dogs don't like to foul in the area which they sleep in. They'll hold it til they get out of it. Then you let it outside. The dog sleeps in the cage and if you go out the dog stays in there.

I've got one up for sale, it's only 2 months old. I bought it for £70, selling for £50.

Also get into the routine of feeding and then half an hour later letting the dog out (or get used to its biological clock).

We have an eight-month-old Chocolate Lab and when we first got him we used this method, never did a poo in the house once. He only did a pee on odd occasions but I thing that was as much our fault when we didn’t” read the signs”

During the day watch for the signs he wants to go, restless, starts sniffing for some ware to do it, whining etc and the let them out.

For the first couple of weeks we locked him in the cage at night, then for the next couple of weeks we used to leave the cage door open, but he still slept in it.

We removed the cage and never had any problems, I don’t know if we were just lucky but this system worked for us.

[marmite]

Originally Posted by kittenta

when mine did that i went back to training her to use the paper and slowly moved it closer to the door! Doesn't always work though. Just keep going as you are, lots of praise for doing it outside and maybe a quick play too. Some people tell their dogs no or some just ignore when they do it inside, it depends on you and your pet. He will get it eventually.

Good luck

Works really well that one, but be patient. Cover the whole area where the dog is with paper, ie the kitchen or where it sleeps. The pup will wee in a particular area(a corner)...you have to keep the paper there and when the pup wee's in the same place a few times, remove the rest of the paper slowly until theres just one piece it can wee on. Then you move it towards to the door etc. It can be a slow painstaking process, especially if the door is far away, but im not a trainer so i cant help too much.
Alternatly praise the dog when it wee's outside, this can involve a long time waiting though!

Good luck

[janny]

Originally Posted by Olliekitten

As most of you know Rich and I are the proud new parents of a beautiful little puppy but we are getting a little unstuck with how to train him to wee and poo outside.

When we first got him, a week ago, he was really good at going for poos outside but he seems to have regressed and could be outside all day but still comes in to wee and poo.

What shall we do?

Help us please.

Just shout at him when you catch him doing it and then chuck him outside ..It is difficult to train them..all dogs are different and learn in different ways..you just have to find the best way to do it yourself...

Ours didn't learn by moving the paper towards the door..They avoided paper.

My dogs go out straight after they have eaten..try letting him out straight after he has eaten.

[devonmiles]

wrt paper training... fair enought they get the idea so you start moving the paper towards the door then put it outside you then go out and forget to show the puppy how to open the door to get out side so he can then pee or number 2 on the paper then you end up with a mess. its just a case of trying to figure out the bowl movement how long after they are fed they need to go and try and work round this by altering feeding times. and access to water. they only need so much water per day so look it up for the breed.

[Lotti]

Ok - just to add my twopenneth!

Don't shout at the dog when he goes to the loo inside:
Puppies urinate as a pacifying gesture so shouting at your puppy will only make matters worse, he will know he's upset you but in order to make things better he will urinate, creating a vicious circle.

Don't 'let' the dog out. Go outside with the puppy, stand with him (on a lead is best as far as I'm concerned but it's up to you) and if after 3 minutes he does nothing, bring him back inside (and put him in his crate, if that's how you choose to do it). Then half an hour later (or if you see any signs), take him back outside again.

Always praise and reward him for going outside - we used cheese as a reward and she cottoned on very quickly. They know that they get no reward for going inside but they do for going outside.

Don't stand at the door and praise your puppy when he returns to the house after doing his business outside. He will only get confused and think that next time he'll have to do it closer to the house, or worse still in the house.

If he goes inside and you don't get there in time to transfer him outside, just calmly ignore him, go and get a cloth etc and clean it thoroughly - so he can't smell it and repeat his action - but don't pay him any attention. If you tell him it's ok because he seems upset, he'll think he can do it all the time, if you shout at him he'll get nervous and do it again later, or he'll remember he got a reaction and not that it was a negative reaction.

Watch him like a hawk, recognise the signs, does he circle? Does he walk like he's just got off a horse (Takara did this!)? Does his bumb get big? You can usually see some sign - as soon as he does this take him outside and give him a command word such as 'get busy' or 'hurry up' or just 'toilet'.

If you don't get there in time, don't worry but rush him straight outside afterwards and stand out there for a minute or so (he may need more!) and then bring him in, he'll associate doing his business with going outside!

It's up to you whether you use paper but a lot of trainers suggest it confuses the puppy being taught it's ok to go inside and then it's not. While you're out, restrict your puppy to an area that's easy to clean if possible (such as the kitchen if there is lino).

Basic times to take your puppy out:

• After a period of play
• Every hour - 2 hours as he gets older
• As soon as he wakes up after sleep
• Half an hour after eating
• Before bed

And remember - he's only a baby and as such, he doesn't have complete control of his bodily functions so any accidents are not his fault (or your fault) - he may not be able to hold it.

The fewer accidents you allow him to have, the quicker he'll train.

[pinklady]

Originally Posted by Classic Rock

Get a dog cage. Dogs don't like to foul in the area which they sleep in. They'll hold it til they get out of it. Then you let it outside. The dog sleeps in the cage and if you go out the dog stays in there.

I trained my 10 month old cavaleir using this method (this was her 2nd home and she had not been trained before) it worked like a charm
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[lalaland]

Originally Posted by Classic Rock

Get a dog cage. Dogs don't like to foul in the area which they sleep in. They'll hold it til they get out of it. Then you let it outside. The dog sleeps in the cage and if you go out the dog stays in there.

Cage worked for me too.

I only used it during the night when we were in bed and if we left it alone in the house for a while. Once it was trained the cage went in the cellar and now the dog has full run of the house without problems.

I think I have my old dog cage in the cellar somewhere, if I can find it I'll post on here and it's free to a good home.

[Marber]

How is it going Olliekitten?

Our new Shih Tzu pup is 3 months old and over the last few days I have noticed a difference in his behaviour showing that he actually knows that he needs to go. He is also doing longer wees so is obviously gaining control.

He has just started going out for walks and I think that this helps as it gives him a better routine. We have an older Shih Tzu who is 2 and he seems to be following the same pattern as her so hopefully he will be having fewer accidents soon - we are down to about 1 a day now.

[Emzy21]

My choccy lab was a bit weird... we did the cage training but had paper down as well

He is now well trained and does it outside all the time... unless he is upstairs and then he pees at the top of the landing

dont know why and its really annoying!!!!

[Lotti]

Have you cleaned thoroughly the spot where he pees? They will go in the same place if they can smell it there.

Alternatively is there any way you can keep him downstairs? It could be a behavioural thing upstairs because more intimate things go on in the rooms up there A lot of dogs pee on their owners' beds as a sign of dominance so it may be worthwhile considering that.

How old is your choc lab?