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09-12-2013, 19:35   #1
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Has anyone had the same problems as me? My house was opened up on the 18th October! The demolition works men came in after the plasterer! All the tradesmen have been but not one job is finished meaning all the tradesmen have to come back! I had no cooker for 5 weeks, no cornice in cupboards they have left jobs they didn't want to do the tiler left the large windowsill as it wasn't level enough he got plaster boards instead!

The best one of all the workman came with the dimond drill to drill a hole in my bathroom for the fan and put the hole where the council plans say and not the YGI plans so the plumber came and fitted the bath the wrong way meaning the the shower would be next to the electric fan and they told me it would be ok and the tiler tiled!

Finally an inspector! Not one but four in the same week to do a snagging list they said the fan can't stop there so the dimond driller has been back out electrician has got to come back out and the tiler! Why not spin the bath around like it says on the plans? They gave me a lame excuse like people would see me in the shower! The council must have got money to burn and plenty of man power to have to do jobs twice!

I could go on and on no work men have been for the last two weeks, I'v been no left in a mess, where's the management? No health and safety about either!

And has anyone else been conned with there windows? They say mines timber sheffield pattern windows. Either the council got conned or I will let you come to your own conclusion!!! It also looks nice on propels outside round the new asda.

The man who wrote an article 10 years ago feeling sorry for those last on the list saying they would end up with rusty old washers on Taps was right! Good luck to the people who are having there houses opened up!
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09-12-2013, 20:08   #2
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and the company has just had its contract renewed for another few years
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09-12-2013, 20:56   #3
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And has anyone else been conned with there windows? They say mines timber sheffield pattern windows. Either the council got conned or I will let you come to your own conclusion!!! It also looks nice on propels outside round the new asda.
what do you mean by any of this it makes no sense, your windows probably are Timber Sheff Pattern windows.
that isn't a con its correct what do you find wrong with them? the timber sheff patt construction are a better window than the uPVC as long as they are maintained correctly

also what is this "propels outside around the asda " you are writing gibberish.

have you spoke to someone from Housing services specifically someone from the Decent homes investment team also don't understand what you mean with regards to H&S if you feel its unsafe you can call them yourself 2734567 ask to be put through to the housing H&S tea.

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and the company has just had its contract renewed for another few years
no it hasn't the team doing the decent homes work are separate to the teams that do repairs
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09-12-2013, 21:54   #4
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What I mean is my windows are no good, I have contacted all relevant people and nothing has been done! Every home was allocated money to be spent on new windows,doors, etc so why all of a sudden are they just replacing the glass on the windows and patching the wooden frame up? Sadly it is a con as every home around the asda has new upvc windows and doors! My house was due to be signed over last week and is still halfway finished with no workmen in sight
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no it hasn't the team doing the decent homes work are separate to the teams that do repairs
so its not kier doing this work ?
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09-12-2013, 22:35   #6
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so its not kier doing this work ?
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No, Ricgem, not necessarily. There were a number of contractors doing the decent homes works, including Kier and Keepmoat.
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What I mean is my windows are no good, I have contacted all relevant people and nothing has been done! Every home was allocated money to be spent on new windows,doors, etc so why all of a sudden are they just replacing the glass on the windows and patching the wooden frame up? Sadly it is a con as every home around the asda has new upvc windows and doors! My house was due to be signed over last week and is still halfway finished with no workmen in sight
why are they no good ? if they are showing signs of rot then they can be repaired either by splicing or by using timbercare/woodcare
they are replacing the glass by routing out and fitting better insulated glazing the frames are still of a good quality and are significantly better than uPVC for the u value, not all the house in Parson Cross had Sheff Patt windows the ones that didn't were replaced with uPVC.
Decent homes is only to ensure that properties are wind and water tight and have a good level of insulation.

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so its not kier doing this work ?
kier LLP (repairs) are different to kier Investment
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It's not just the windows that's the issue if the work had been done to the proper standard and I hadn't been left like this it's all one big joke and something needs doing about it! I feel for the elderly that have to live like this! When the other contractors went on strike! The man what was running the job on my house and my neighbours house promised me it would be done to a great standard! 2 days later no demolition 2 weeks later still nothing a week later the man who made these promises walked off the job! And it's not the work men's fault it's the so called educated people that are not smart enough to make sure the work runs smoothly and the elderly and vulnerable people are not left to live in squalor
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kier LLP (repairs) are different to kier Investment
so it is kier
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10-12-2013, 07:58   #10
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so it is kier
It shouldn't matter which company is actually doing the work, the responsibility for getting it right is down to the council.

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It's not just the windows that's the issue if the work had been done to the proper standard and I hadn't been left like this it's all one big joke and something needs doing about it! I feel for the elderly that have to live like this! When the other contractors went on strike! The man what was running the job on my house and my neighbours house promised me it would be done to a great standard! 2 days later no demolition 2 weeks later still nothing a week later the man who made these promises walked off the job! And it's not the work men's fault it's the so called educated people that are not smart enough to make sure the work runs smoothly and the elderly and vulnerable people are not left to live in squalor
I'm wondering if you've taken this further, ie putting in a complaint? In case you haven't, here's an online link: https://www.sheffieldhomes.org.uk/my...ggestions.aspx Its a good idea to get your complaints into the system, rather than just telling the workmen or inspectors who come to your house.

I would suggest you also contact one of your local councillors. Make a list of all the things that went wrong which still haven't been put right. You can find their contact details and the time and place of their surgeries here: http://councillors.sheffield.gov.uk/...sp?pgid=215818 Just put in the name of the ward where you live.
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How much of this work is the OP paying for out of their own pocket again
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Thanks ms Mac Beth but I'v complained to all the right people and geared if you haven't got anything interesting to say then do one!
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It shouldn't matter which company is actually doing the work, the responsibility for getting it right is down to the council..
it shouldnt matter which company is doing the job are you for real . ive heard them all now
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it shouldnt matter which company is doing the job are you for real . ive heard them all now
The standard should be the same as they are all working for the council. There are plenty of highly paid managers in SCC whose job it is to ensure contractors and partners do what they are paid for. Thats why I suggested complaining via the right channels.

If someone is a tenant of the council, the council is their landlord, and the council get paid rent for that tenant's home. Tenants shouldn't have to consider who is carrying out repairs and maintenance, if a contractor has botched a job, then the onus is on the landlord (council) to make sure its sorted.

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Thanks ms Mac Beth but I'v complained to all the right people and geared if you haven't got anything interesting to say then do one!
Did you get a proper reply to your complaint, and what did your councillor do?
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The standard should be the same as they are all working for the council. There are plenty of highly paid managers in SCC whose job it is to ensure contractors and partners do what they are paid for. Thats why I suggested complaining via the right channels.?
and in this case its kier so i guess all along i was right
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No kier aren't the ones doing the work so ur wrong
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No kier aren't the ones doing the work so ur wrong
who are doing the work then because as far as i know the only contractors still doing Decent Homes are Kier, incidently you should complain to Housing(ex sheffield Homes) as they monitor these issues the contractor willtry and wriggle out of any thing in order to get the job signed off and paid
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No kier aren't the ones doing the work so ur wrong
Ok I'm wrong so who's doing the work
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14-12-2013, 07:14   #19
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Phone the housing office and ask for the telephone number for the local tenants board. They have alot of power within the council. I had a 10 month nightmare with my new kitchen, got the tenants board involved it was sorted in a month.
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I'm into week 8 now of the decent homes work. I agree it's a total nightmare from organisation to the workmanship. regardless of it being a council house we should still be seeing more organisation, liaison and better finished products. The plasterer did a terrible job, the walls are worse than they were before and now the paints on it's horrendous. Jobs are started and not finished. We've had endless amounts of damage to our personal things from broken light shades to ripped carpets and the mess left after each job, even when i've been told ,"we've cleaned up " i've had to follow up with proper cleaning.

Contractors turn up to do jobs with little or no notice, most with the aim of getting in doing the job fast, without a care for the finish. I was given 5 minutes notice at 8.15am during this week to clear the kitchen, they know i have children and do a school run, but they don't care, after all we are only tenants !

I have totally had enough of the whole process and can't wait for them to sign the house off as finished, but this will not be done before xmas as still many things to correct and jobs to be finished. The whole process is starting to make me ill with the stress of it all and it is affecting all the family including our children.

We never wanted the work doing. but the house had not been touched for well over 30 years so needed to be brought up to date, especially with electrics, windows and the heating.

Luckily I was allowed to leave the cooker and the washer connected in the kitchen, without the use of these i think i would have ended up camping out at our parents . I sympathise with anyone that has gone through this over the last 10 years or so and more so for the houses that are being done last. I'd heard quite a few horror stories in the past, but always thought that they were vamping the problems up and complaining at the slightest things, now i'm in it I know what was said is true.
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