Why does Sheffield have so little major A roads?

rickmiles85 · 06-06-2003, 21:00

Hi ppl,
this is my first post on here. Really smart forum!
anyways... well im going on the fact that well my home city is huge in terms of population but many ppl never really consider it as being anywhere special, most of my mates only heard of it a couple of years ago when they started to get into snooker.
More to the point...well considering Sheffield has a population around 513,000 people. It seems very weird looking at a map and see just a couple of major A roads (in green usually) around Sheffield. It makes the place look so small. Why does Sheffield have so little. Looking at Bristol/Nottingham/Liverpool ..smaller cites...which would mean that less people need to get around the place..so why does Bristol have a motorway going into the centre? Alright we have the parkway but surely common sense would say that with it being a larger city hence more people move around? We dont even have a truely outer ring road...could anyone explain this?

RPG · 06-06-2003, 21:06

we do have the M1 going pretty much through sheffield as well as the A1 being quite close

rickmiles85 · 06-06-2003, 21:22

yea true..but its not exactly close its over near donny.

alchresearch · 08-06-2003, 19:39

I think the hills play a major part in the way the city and its roads have developed.

rickmiles85 · 08-06-2003, 20:21

Thats not a bad suggestion, I didnt think of that, it may well have done!

MichaelJP · 13-12-2010, 09:43

It's true, the lack of an outer ring road around the western half of Sheffield makes driving difficult, but it's not just the hills, these are the affluent areas of the city and have never allowed the development of such a road.

GrannyGranny · 13-12-2010, 10:31

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Originally Posted by MichaelJP

It's true, the lack of an outer ring road around the western half of Sheffield makes driving difficult, but it's not just the hills, these are the affluent areas of the city and have never allowed the development of such a road.

What!?!

Its got nothing to do with how affluent the area is.

Its got more to do with demand, topography, existing routes and most important, cost.

The existing topography would make an outer ring road from Bochum Parkway to Hillsborough pretty near impossible to build without a huge budget and some huge structures. It would also go through or near to areas of natural beauty, SSSIs, heritage sites etc..

It would never get off the ground.

damo · 13-12-2010, 10:53

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Originally Posted by GrannyGranny

What!?!

Its got nothing to do with how affluent the area is.

Its got more to do with demand, topography, existing routes and most important, cost.

The existing topography would make an outer ring road from Bochum Parkway to Hillsborough pretty near impossible to build without a huge budget and some huge structures. It would also go through or near to areas of natural beauty, SSSIs, heritage sites etc..

It would never get off the ground.

Its also a 7 year old thread. God knows why they chose to resurrect it.

GrannyGranny · 13-12-2010, 10:56

Oops......................

MichaelJP · 13-12-2010, 10:58

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Originally Posted by GrannyGranny

What!?!

Its got nothing to do with how affluent the area is.

Its got more to do with demand, topography, existing routes and most important, cost.

The existing topography would make an outer ring road from Bochum Parkway to Hillsborough pretty near impossible to build without a huge budget and some huge structures. It would also go through or near to areas of natural beauty, SSSIs, heritage sites etc..

It would never get off the ground.

I agree with you that it would never get off the ground, but topography is not really the main issue. The factors of natural beauty, SSSIs etc. are mainly still there because of the historical development of the affluent west of Sheffield with its parks and leafy suburbs. I'm sure there would be plenty of areas such as this on the east side of Sheffield if it hadn't been for the wide scale development of heavy industry and associated housing.

Case in point, the ruins of Sheffield Manor a few hundred metres from the Parkway, would that road have been built in a more affluent area?

MichaelJP · 13-12-2010, 11:00

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Originally Posted by damo

Its also a 7 year old thread. God knows why they chose to resurrect it.

Hmm.. weird - it appeared on the first page of threads this morning for some reason...

damo · 13-12-2010, 11:12

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Originally Posted by MichaelJP

Hmm.. weird - it appeared on the first page of threads this morning for some reason...

Aha, I know what you have done - you have inadvertently clicked the little button next to "Last post" and it has sorted the threads in the reverse order (oldest first)

MichaelJP · 13-12-2010, 11:17

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Originally Posted by damo

Aha, I know what you have done - you have inadvertently clicked the little button next to "Last post" and it has sorted the threads in the reverse order (oldest first)

I think you could be right! Though 7 years on, Sheffield still lacks major A roads

David Bowler · 13-12-2010, 12:11

It's because Sheffield is the capitol of the South Yorkshire Socialist republic or it might be because Sheffield is not important enough? like Leeds and Bristol or London which are the centres of the universe according to the media

metalman · 13-12-2010, 12:20

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Originally Posted by damo

Aha, I know what you have done - you have inadvertently clicked the little button next to "Last post" and it has sorted the threads in the reverse order (oldest first)

Because some idiot posted nonsense replies to loads of thread first thing this morning which have since been removed, but the threads stay on the front page.

Jason Bourne · 13-12-2010, 21:42

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Originally Posted by alchresearch

I think the hills play a major part in the way the city and its roads have developed.

Yep, you can't widen the roads without flattening half the houses

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