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Wow Willybite what of my memory banks have you released!!!,Frank Ridge was a great mate of mine for many years probably because he and I had the same ginger nut,and Charles Eckardt,who by order of his mother had to be called"Charles"not Charley,or Chas,nor Charley Wag,and if his mother heard you call him any of these names she would be down on you like an avenging angel.
I was in Mr Woods class and he was well known for his prowess with the cane, a WW1 veteran he had suffered with trench foot and his toes were permanently upturned which affected his walk, he also took us for sports,but as it was war time these were very restricted, he lived at Crosspool,and I remember when one day he had forgotten some papers or something he sent me to collect them, with a note from him in my pocket to say I was'nt playing truant.
Peter Price was at the school as a pupil,very star pupil when I was but higher than us lot,and well known athelete,particularly swimming if I remember correctly, and water polo.
My mate Peter Savage had a cousin,Esther Hukin who lived in the corner house of Bath St and Thomas St diagonally opposite the pub,was it the Bath Hotel?, and I was a bit sweet on her so when there were family get togethers and such like I always made sure I was sitting near Esther!.
You may be interested to know a few weeks ago I was invited to my youngest grandsons school to give a talk to his class on "Going to School in War Time", and I had a lovely time,the children showed great interest and asked loads of questions,even the teacher took notes,and asked questions on various points.
Right opposite where the Savages lived was a wide entry,did you live anywhere near there?This entry was the favourite hang out for the "Bookie" when off course betting was illegal, and the police used to dress up as workman and carry tools to try and catch him,but he received plenty of warning from his clients when they were about.
Happy,happy days,thanks for awakening those memories mate

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As you were,re above it should read the corner of Bath St and Headford St,the memory banks are are bit rusty!

[willybite]

hiya high note
was just reading your reply when i was scratching my head about the pub when i read your p.s.. the pub you were on about was the dog and gun. our first house was the corner of thomas street and bath street bang opposite to george turtons off licence.on the other corner was old mr bartholomew's sweet shop.
do you remember the scrap yard(skeltons),and smythes,maurice, jimmy,i dont think you'd have known kevin and their sister bunty. do you remember the sidalls dairy up monmouth street their son ron became a policeman and i remember he had some fun with the bookies that stood at the bottom of our yard i once saw him standing by the side of bartholomews shop he at once took his helmet off before looking around the corner, another time he went into the albert pub on broomhall st to ask if he coulld use their toilet he then climbed over the wall to end up in a yard on bath st. while i'm here do you remember the morgans i only knew the name from the house when i was small the house on its own was known as morgans house.

p.s i lived on bath street from1940/1 to 1961 we lived in house after the browns,jack,ken,sylvia,ann, their cousin was raymond higgins on edgerton street,remember lew lindenstruth, and cliff glaves they were a bit older than me.

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Hello again Willybite,
Once again very many thanks or you comments,which have opened more memories that have been tucked away for many many years.
I remember Lew Lindenstruth, and seem to have it in my mind he had some sort of disability?,however another name was Harold Broadhurst who did have a very severe disability,and when we picked sides for football we always"picked" Harold in and so he did not feel left out,and whoever's side he was on always put him in goal.
Mr Sidall was our milkman,we lived on Upper Hanover St nearly opposite the top of Aberdeen St, and when he was delivering milk with the milk float as he walked down the street a word from him and the horse moved on to the next stop.I seem to remember he had some cows at the back of his premises in Monmouth St for the milk supply,can you imagine that these days,Mr Sidall was very proud when his son was accepted into the police.
I remember the scrapyard, and also a collect it yourself coal merchants somewhere around the Headford St area, where small amounts of coal could be bought and for a small deposit have the use one of their small barrows, and my sister Joy and myself often went for coal when we were running short during the war.
I remember Clifford Glaves very well,he and his cousin Peter,who lived in Aberdeen St were members of our group(I think gang is a dirty word these days!) another was Ron Lindsay who went on to become famous as Jimmy Crawford.
Another big mate of mine from those days was Norman Bartholomew,who sadly died some months ago,a good footballer but he did have proper football boots, as you well know times were hard in those days,but I had a pair of boots,and I mean BOOTS,lace up to the ankle with big too caps big nail in leather studs,so when Norman was selected to play for the school he always used my boots as he and I were the same size more or less,and what is a size or two between friends.
The name Frank Broadhurst seems familiar but nothing else,As yet!!!

[willybite]

i have been reading the posts in reguards of pubs closeing down and the reasons why, i've been jogging my grey cells, when i was younger in the 40s /50s there wasn'ta lot of money about or things to spend any you had on never the less ,there were quite a few pubs to give you an idea of the amount there were, i remember these pubs within 15 minutes walk of where i lived maybe some of you will remember them, and some i may have missed.
near enough springfield school.
1. poplar.2.aberdeen.3,bath (broomhall st) 4 albert.5 broomhall tavern 6 bath (victoria st)7 red deer9(pitt st). 8 beehive. 9 mailcoach 10 raven 11 trafalgar 12 grey horse. (chester st) 13 washington (my first legal pint) 1956;;14 peacock. 15 two steps (known as )16 hodgson. 17 milton. 18 brunswick.19 scarborough.20. gilchrists(known as) 21.dog and gun;plus 5 off licences in the same 15 minutes walk. and chip shops there were in this area were 7. when i talk to my grand children about cobblers they have no idea what they were, there were 3 within 5 minutes walk, there were 5 butchers in same 5 minutes. of course they had no competition from the big supermarkets the first tv i watched was my aunts in laws set about 1950 i think at that time transmition started at 7 30pm and finished at 10pm HIGH NOTE;; have just read your letter above,i worked with harold broadhurst he worked at laycock engineering he was a tool and cutter grinder, he once told me he was quite a good goalie as it was the only position they would let him play. lew lindenstuth did have a slight limp. as for cliff glaves, i knew his brother brian better, i see that you lived on upperhanover street well frank broadhurst along with his mom and dad and his siblings moved from bath st around 1947 they lived further down upperhanover st from where you lived oppoasite the scout rooms their house was the first house on from the laundrey im not 100% about the laundrey was it on one corner and on the other three there were a paper shop, st silas church ,and richards, before they moved down to moore st around 1950.around 30 years ago i was parked on the dale at woodseats when i heard somebody say hiya i said howdo it's ernest thornhill isnt it i'd said the first name to come to me i knew he was a really good swimmer,he said no, as soon as he said no, i knew i was wrong, it was jack fletcher from aberdeen st. i think he said he lived in dronfield at the time. another blast from the past i was talking to an old pro footballer friend of mind and mentioned a footballer who lived around about our area i could only remember his name was les and he played for derby county he said you mean les moore, he said les wasn't very old when he died.

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Here we go again,with some wonderful memories thanks to you Willybite,I remember Les Moore, lived on Monmouth St,his cousin was my best mate,Kenneth Wild who lived a few doors away from us,Ken,or Curly as he was known was my soul brother for about 10 years until he joined the Navy and subsequently during his service got married,some years ago through my sister Joy who regularly met up with Les Moores widow I was able to have a lovely reunion with Ken just before he died for which I am eternally thankful.
Back to Les Moore I saw him play for Derby County at Hillsborough,and then he went to Lincoln City, he was player/manager for Buxton,and the last time I saw him he was playing on a monthly contract with Lockheed Leamington, and well into his forties.The funny thing about Les was when we young and playing football he could not play for toffee!, no ball sense,no skills but went on to become a pro.
Jack Fletcher was in the same class as my sister.
What about all those lovely pubs,all well remembered too,a very good mate of mine from those days,and still is,had an uncle who lived on Egerton St and his local was the Scarborough, and we always went there on Sunday dinner for a couple of pints with him,a game of darts or solo.The landlord was a man called Bardwell,and his son Kenneth was the featured singer with the Ken Mackintosh Big Band, he worked with the name Kenny Bardell.
The Broomhall was another favourite watering hole,a mate of mine was Frank Oldale who lived in Aberdeen St, he was little older than me and had finished his National Service before me so when I was on leave we would have a few pints in the Broomhall, and when I was demobbed we always enjoyed some great times there.
The Aberdeen was on the corner opposite where we lived and during the war the landlord was Horace Machin,who when there was an air raid always opened the pub because I don't think he wanted to be on his own
The laundry was on the corner opposite Richards,on the other corner was and still is I think St Silas Church,and you are correct a paper shop.
The name Broadhurst rings a bell but that is all, I shall have to consult my sister with one or two of these names,she is younger than I am,I do know one of her schoolmates was lad called Dennis Groves who served in Korea and had a very hard time when he was taken POW.
I lived on Upper Hanover St from 1935 until 1964 whenI got married and met and knew some wonderful people and friends with memories I shall keep for the rest of my life.Keep themcoming please!!!!!

[willybite]

hiya highnote willy bite here again i have a few more names for you to log on to but first have read your last letter and i remember the name of dennis groves, and your sister may remember maureen broadhurst i think she was around jack fletchers age any how its getting a bit harder for me as i am now 71 and the names we've passed on i have in some cases have known their siblings better,Right then a few more that i remember do you remember billy, and ken dean from headford street,or the shores from headford street, cliff ransom broomhall street,harry cotten headford street.the websters and the humphries from cavendish street, and one that has just come to me was billy telfer,do you remember the walkers from clarence street ernest was a bit older than me i knew derek better, and there was the baldwins david and peter broomhall street the naylors michael and raymond, from the bottom of aberdeen street their dad was in the fire brigade during the war and after, there was graham axe he went in the navy i think his sister was shirley ray paramore rip i knew all his siblings, terry and pat were in my year at school

[JackD]

Hi Willy,do you remember Brian Dean, a good swimmer. I think he swam for the Sheffield Dolphins with Peter Price (our school teacher). And did'nt Dereck Walker keep a pub somewhere in town.

[willybite]

hiya jackd i've just read your letter you've written about brian dean he was the best swimmer in our year at school you were right about him swimming for the dolphins also peter price. i used to see peter price the odd time at the bookies where we live although i hav'nt seen him for about seven years as that was the last time i had a bet, the first time we bumped into each other i said you don't remember me do you, we were at springfield school together, but you were the teacher and i was the pupil. he asked me who were in my year at springfield, i said two or three names ernest parks,brian dean, terry constantine, he remembered all the names then he asked me my name when i said white he said billy white i remember you you used to bowl funny at cricket, i didn't think i did, my uncle worked as a groundsman at bramhall lane and he would ask for tips from the likes of johnnie wardle,and other yorkshire players then pass it on to me,it was around 30 years ago was when i met peter price and i asked him if he was still teaching he said no, he hadn't taught for twelve or thirteen years, the kids were not like when you lot were in my class you lot would do as you were told i said i remember when we did wrong you would say "get my size eleven slipper out of the cupboard".ernest parks died at eighteen and terry constantine when he was around twenty or twenty one.i do sometimes go to chesterfield with my wife and if any time you're out and about look out for a motorized scooter as i have to use one as my legs arn't working very well,it would be great to shake your hand and say hallo. you asked about derek walker, he had the golden ball at the corner of townhead street his mate at school was do you remember david baldwin, he had the parkhead at eccleshall rd south then the omega resteraunt. terry room had a pub around maltby.

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jackd do you remember the name barry cheswick he was in the year higher than our year he lived near gell street and upper hanover street he had a relative called derek ash and something at the back of my mind was the name freddie hodgson. well i was reading an ex pats website some while ago and it said he was an ex pupil, he lives in australia and is was an hospital church-man
.HIGHNOTE do you remember kenneth carr from broomspring lane he lived in the first house down from victoria street he emigrated to australia then came back just before one of his parents died he has since gone back again, . willybite

[waity]

Hi there
My dad was born in 1932 and went to Springfield about that time, His name was Bill Wait and had sisters called Joan, Kath, Dorothy and Sheila. I think they lived on Monmouth Street then. I went in the seventies and remember all the teachers including my favourite Mr Wareham

[willybite]

hiya john d i was talking to my cousin last week and was telling her about being in touch with your letters,as soon as i mentioned your name was dukes
she said a girl in her class was ... dukes i dont recall her christian name her name was elaine burgess, she had a sister called jacqueline and one called ann, elaine was born in sept 1944.
ps jack do you remember these names marie birks,margaret bowen, arthur waymouth
brian nussey,colliers,( CHIMNEY SWEEP) what was the family name of the tatooist on wilkinson st, yospurs ben, gordon.

[JackD]

Hi Willy, yes i have a sister called Linda who was born in 1944,
Marie Birks lived across the road from me, and Gordon, Ben Yosper lived a few doors away, that was on Gloucester street. Arthur (titch) Weymouth lived across from where the Hallamshire hospital now stands. Brian Nussey used to live on Ruth square of Dorset street,and the name of the tattooist i think was Johnson. You'r digging some old memories up mate.
All the best, Jack.

[willybite]

Originally Posted by JackD

Hi Willy, yes i have a sister called Linda who was born in 1944,
Marie Birks lived across the road from me, and Gordon, Ben Yosper lived a few doors away, that was on Gloucester street. Arthur (titch) Weymouth lived across from where the Hallamshire hospital now stands. Brian Nussey used to live on Ruth square of Dorset street,and the name of the tattooist i think was Johnson. You'r digging some old memories up mate.
All the best, Jack.

hiya jack one or two names for you, can you remember the hadley's was it brian, the timm,s, peter and audrey i recall, the dawber's doris,john. just remembered pamela marrison, she married harold broadhurst, who i worked with at laycocks.
ps peter bullock. another name just come to me
pps. just thought was it kenneth hadley not brian.

[JackD]

Hi Willy, remember Doris Dawber, Pam Marrison's dad had a butchers shop at the top of Broomspring Lane. I think i've run out of names to remember now, that i was at school with. My dad was at springfield school, and i've got a photo of him and his class, i reckon taken about 1926 ish.

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Hello Willybite,here I am back again after one or two delays,yes I do remember Kenneth Carr very well, and where he lived on Broomspring Lane,and one of the things I remember about that part was the lovely array of window boxes on the downstairs window ledges.
Ray Parramore,well remembered is also another name I remember,he died at a very early age,Ben and Gordon Yosper too.Just below where Ken Carr lived towards the school was a lad called Frost,Frosty of course,cannot remember his first name,John maybe,and a good mate of mine was Gordon Wood who lived in Aberdeen St,same yard as Peter Glaves.
You say you have difficulty in remembering at 71,what's my excuse at 79!
We are out of the country for the next two weeks so don't think I have left this life,I do not intend to,Yet!

[willybite]

Originally Posted by JackD

Hi Willy, remember Doris Dawber, Pam Marrison's dad had a butchers shop at the top of Broomspring Lane. I think i've run out of names to remember now, that i was at school with. My dad was at springfield school, and i've got a photo of him and his class, i reckon taken about 1926 ish.

hya jack just read your last last post ive also just about run out of school names, mind you i dont think we've done too bad for 71 year olds do you,when i read some letters in other posts some have trouble with the 70s/80s so our schooling can't have done us any harm can it.when i read your letter of your dad being at springfield school in 1926 my mum and her brothers were there at that time my uncles were jim,b1914,jack b1917 walt b1919 mum,b1916 so the odds are they were at springfield school at the same time
now then j d having used up our school mates names we could start on theirs.
ps jack i'm only kidding

[C1965]

Originally Posted by willybite

hiya jack one or two names for you, can you remember the hadley's was it brian, the timm,s, peter and audrey i recall, the dawber's doris,john. just remembered pamela marrison, she married harold broadhurst, who i worked with at laycocks.

Hiya - I read with interest of your reference to "the timms, peter and audrey"; peter timm is my father and audrey [who later married tom downes] is my aunt. It is many, many years since I have walked round Springfield School and heard my father tell me tales about when he was a lad there. Would like to know of anymore you or anyone else might remember. My father lived in back to back houses in Lawson Street [demolished after the war] near the city centre, and his family was re-housed on Brunswick Street [Broomhall].

Does anyone have any photos of classes from Springfield School that would include either my father [Peter Timm] or my Aunt [Audrey Timm]? :