al22, gabby - please leave your disagreements with minnime off the Forum.
If you have a problem with each other, resolve it privately, please.
Thanks,
Joe
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Nothing's really changed- all these things went on when i was at school, and i left in 1982. Its only a minority that cause all the trouble, and anyone who lives near a school is gonna get some aggravation from kids, wether its Newfield or Meadowhead or anywhere.
And lay off kids from valley! kids behave badly cos of the way they've been brought up, not cos of where they live!!
Nothing's really changed- all these things went on when i was at school, and i left in 1982. Its only a minority that cause all the trouble, and anyone who lives near a school is gonna get some aggravation from kids, wether its Newfield or Meadowhead or anywhere.
And lay off kids from valley! kids behave badly cos of the way they've been brought up, not cos of where they live!!
i have been told this and also have had dealings with it no and it hasnt been denied either that the pupils who attend newfield from bankwood and valley park are labelled as soon as they start as from the under priveliged area mundella carfield and meersbrook pupils are greeted in totally differant way
I know children from Mundella and Carfield who go to Newfield I don't think they are talked to differently when they get to Newfield. They all get treated badly once they have Newfield uniform on. All students in Newfield are tarred with the same brush because of a minority who have been allowed to behave badly.
I left Newfield in 2002. My younger brother is currently in Y10. He experienced problems with bullying but I think its extremely naive to think that only pupils in perceived "bad" school have problems with bullying. There's been a change of leadership since I was there but they were very good in finding more vocational forms of education for the more disruptive elements and they never took exams. Also, the streaming for GCSE classes helps root out the "undesirables".
I have to admit I was also bullied but can now look back and believe it made me a stronger person who was more determined to achieve. The school and the teaching were not intrinsically bad, I left with 9 GCSEs A*-B but that was because I wanted to make the most of my time there. Like most teachers, if the pupils want to learn the teachers will go out of their way to enable and enrich their education but if the kids don't want to learn, why should the teachers try and teach them?
My Uncle is a teacher who's worked in many of the supposed "better" schools in Sheffield and encountered the same problems as in some of the ill-thought of schools. My fiance works at Abbeydale Grange School, which was always the school ANYONE could get in while I was in school education and he says much of the reputation is unfounded.
At the end of the day, if your child has their heart set on a school, it's their choice and they won't forgive you for trying to influence that. Some of my mates from primary school went to Meadowhead, they suffered from bullying too and got no better GCSEs than I did.
All you can do is go along and have a look at the school and listen to your child.
You will see that the Headmaster of that time joined the forum and answered a few questions.
I believe he left at the end of last year and the interim head(s) are trying to effect change. Mr Yeates said the same thing as well!
Ofsted report is here.
Its general summary is 'inadequate' and the school was given notice to improve.
The inspectors' letter to the pupils is interesting:
"Text from letter to pupils explaining the findings of the inspection
On behalf of all the inspectors, I would like to thank you for making us welcome during your inspection. Thank you for talking to us, showing us your work, sharing your lessons and helping us find our way around your quite complicated buildings.
You will know by now that we decided that the best way to help you is to give the school a 'Notice to improve'. This is because although we think much of your life in the school is satisfactory, it could be much better. We think you could enjoy school more and we think you could do better in your school work.
We also think your new headteachers have already, in a very short time, done a lot to make this happen. There have been so many changes for you to cope with recently, you may not all realise what big improvements there have been, or how keen your teachers and other staff are for things to improve. Some of you seem quite fed up with school, but we are sure things are getting better. We are asking the school to go on making your lessons more exciting, helping you to set targets so that you can see how well you are doing, and helping you to become more independent.
You have a part to play in the improvement too, because we think you would all like to take more responsibility, both for your own progress, and for the way the school is run. We are asking the school to give you all more opportunities to support the school and each other, and we hope you will soon see how much things are changing for the better."
just been speaking with a few of the local children around were i live and it does sem the older children are not very nice also the transport to school is ruled by certain gangs who even attack the bus driver i would advise you to look at meadowhead i certainley wouldnt let my child attend this school
i agree totaly the newfield school kids are horrible they pick fights with anyone who looks at them and are buggers for going up to meadowhead school and beating the kids up
i have been told this and also have had dealings with it no and it hasnt been denied either that the pupils who attend newfield from bankwood and valley park are labelled as soon as they start as from the under priveliged area mundella carfield and meersbrook pupils are greeted in totally differant way
well of course this could be the case but true as bad as it sounds the majority of children from bankwood school and valley park (not as many)are from non working drug addicts alcholics or some kind of under priveliged background how many on the gleadless valley have normal home lives parents working and not high knowledge of drug and alchol abuse i would say 1 in 10 the children then go to newfield were it stands out in their attainment behavoir and attitudes how many of the youths who are trouble and disrupt lessons are from other schools i bet the majority of unruly pupils are from bankwood or valley park please quote me if i am wrong
i agree totaly the newfield school kids are horrible they pick fights with anyone who looks at them and are buggers for going up to meadowhead school and beating the kids up
That is only the case with a small mijority of the pupils, i attend Newfield School and i don't pick fights with anyone who looks at me, or with anyone for that matter, so get your facts right before making stupid comments like that.
That is only the case with a small mijority of the pupils, i attend Newfield School and i don't pick fights with anyone who looks at me, or with anyone for that matter, so get your facts right before making stupid comments like that.
if this isnt true then can u tell me why meadowhead school banned the kids from going out of school on there breaks because the newfield kids used to wait on meadowhead and pickfights and why kids that left years ago still drive around picking fights and beating kids up .Newfield are well known for this so i consider my facts to be right.
if this isnt true then can u tell me why meadowhead school banned the kids from going out of school on there breaks because the newfield kids used to wait on meadowhead and pickfights and why kids that left years ago still drive around picking fights and beating kids up .Newfield are well known for this so i consider my facts to be right.
They did well to get all the way from Newfield to Meadowhead AND pick a fight all in half an hour's break time.
Or maybe we Newfield pupil's were just that good at physics we perfected the art of time travel
There's bad kids at all schools and Meadowhead isn't immune from that despite what you and many others think.
I heard stories about one class locking a teacher in a cupboard at Meadowhead
Schools are all the same, you have the bad kids and the good kids - its not just Newfield kids
I went to Newfield leaving in 2000, and glad to say i did not start no trouble, but others may have done - all schools are like this, its the way children are...surely everyone's school was like that???
Newfield was a very good school when i was there, not too sure about it now though so i cant speak for it now.
Fights between schools are always going to occur, shame really, but thats the way things go sadly.
Although Im ashamed to admit it, I did attend Newfield school in the lates 90s....it was a bad school then, and from what I hear, it's even worse now!! If I had a choice, I wouldn't send my kids there!! Maybe I just had a bad experience (I was never picked on or anything...I even managed to get good exam results) but in my opinion kids should go to school to learn, not spend half their time listening to the disruptives (who are in their majority), abuse the teachers!!!
In my opinion...if your child is willing to learn (but no too willing, as to get bullied), he/she should get ok (not outstanding) exam results. But if he/she is already hanging out with the wrong crowd/displaying signs that they could be a tearaway in the making, then keep them well clear (especially now that Mr Poore - the only teacher who could strike fear into such kids - has left)!!
are you talking about newfield school more like newfield prison.They have built a big steel fence round it to keep kids in at dinner. Then you ring up and ask to talk to teacher n its theyl ring you back and never do.It awaste of space in my eyes
those fences are a brilliant idea. did you know that some kids were going up to the school on bikes with pellet guns!! should have been done years ago. only thing that school has done right. my son goes there and I rue the day I ever let him. he is a very bright lad but the school is terrible. uniforms a joke. we kitted him out and make sure he wears it but it seems the school don't enforce it. is a joke school. no morals taught no respect taught. if your child on a school team or has a social worker, your laughing. My son does really well but only cos we keep him on the ball the school do nothing to help him. we have had a few occasions where we had words with the headmaster cos our lad was getting bit talkative in classes and messing around, but fell on deaf ears. we had to come down hard on our son to stop it.
Don't know if you are still wanting replies but thought I would add my two penneth anyway. I attended Gleadless Valley until year 9 when the two schools merged together and I was moved to Newfield. Neither school was particularly bad at the time of the merger nor were they perfect but the problems began afterwards. Most of the boys that moved across in my year dropped out (due to constant fighting with newfielders). So Valley kids can't take the blame for that school now being the s**t hole it is because most of them left and the bad uns (or whatever) were all originally from Newfield and all lived at Meersbrook or Heeley.
Both my brothers went there - the oldest was diagnosed with dislexia when he went to Norton college (bit late) the youngest was tested and found to have severe dislexia two weeks before his G.C.S.Es. Needless to say the younger of the two is now 20 years old & unemployed - his longest job lasted a year.
I don't have kids but if I did they wouldn't go there - but then all schools are the same these days aren't they? Kids might be politer or better spoken from one school than from another but there will still be bullying and misbehaving no matter where you send them.
