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12-03-2013, 09:12   #21
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Interesting. I drive through Bradway most days on my way from work and a sainsburys would be very handy. I would use it in place of the Spar personally, for newagenty stuff rather than meat or fruit n veg... so i wouldnt worry if i was Makinsons or the butcher (supermarket fruit/veg/meat is rubbish anyway but especially the convenience supermarkets), but the spar... id be very worried if this is true. The staff in there are rude (including the post office staff), so i dont like going there anyway and only go if i really have to!

By the way, have Makinsons got their hanging baskets in yet does anyone know?
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12-03-2013, 12:23   #22
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Both myself & my mum use the local shops at Bradway, Makinsons is very good, the new bread they've started selling is superb, Alan the butcher is also good, excellent steak pies! Agree that the spar & chemist leave a lot to be desired. It's a shame that a pub chain doesn't open up the Bradway again.
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12-03-2013, 15:46   #23
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Yes, I know this is snobbish, BUT, perhaps we could have a really nice "Spoons" in Bradway to give the clientele the chance to fight and vomit on the pavement.
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12-03-2013, 17:47   #24
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Interesting. I drive through Bradway most days on my way from work and a sainsburys would be very handy. I would use it in place of the Spar personally, for newagenty stuff rather than meat or fruit n veg... so i wouldnt worry if i was Makinsons or the butcher (supermarket fruit/veg/meat is rubbish anyway but especially the convenience supermarkets), but the spar... id be very worried if this is true. The staff in there are rude (including the post office staff), so i dont like going there anyway and only go if i really have to!

By the way, have Makinsons got their hanging baskets in yet does anyone know?
My main worry is the effect it would have on the Spar. I understand a lot of people would welcome the Sainbury's and I'll be happy to go toe to toe with them on price and quality. It's the things that are out of my control that worry me.

I'll be going to the meeting on the 26th to see what's cracking. At the moment I'm more worried about the impending road works. The last lot on Bradway road took a lot of trade from us =(

As for the "famous" hanging baskets...It varies each year when we start with them. It's all dependant on the weather like most things! I'll be contacting the chap who makes them in the next couple of weeks to catch up and see how they are looking. It's amazing how much they can come on with a week of good weather. Warm nights are the most important thing for growth so fingers crossed!

To give you an idea of dates though...here's the dates we started with them in the past.

2009 - 30th April
2010 - 28th April
2011 - 7th April
2012 - 9th May

As you can see late April/early May is a safe bet but if we do get some cracking weather early on (fingers crossed) we may at it early like in 2011! Keep an eye out on the big 12ft Chalkboard at the front of my shop. There will be a massive Hanging Basket sign up there hopefully for when we start with them.
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Both myself & my mum use the local shops at Bradway, Makinsons is very good, the new bread they've started selling is superb, Alan the butcher is also good, excellent steak pies! Agree that the spar & chemist leave a lot to be desired. It's a shame that a pub chain doesn't open up the Bradway again.
Thanks for the compliment =] Even though I know we aren't perfect it is nice to hear a few compliments. There's been a lot of pessimism floating around this past few years with the recession and whatnot so it comes as a much needed boost!

Glad you like the bread too. We are doing better with it than I had imagined and I've heard a lot of positives. Hopefully we can increase trade on it and get a nice steady stream of customers coming to us!

Thanks again!

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12-03-2013, 19:15   #25
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cheers i will keep an eye out for them
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12-03-2013, 19:27   #26
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Makinsons hanging baskets are fantastic. It's not worth making your own at their prices. I bet Sainsburys couldn't compete with those.
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12-03-2013, 21:36   #27
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If Bradway wants to stop Sainsburys and others of the same ilk from moving onto the site of the old pub it really will have to galvanize itself into action. From my own point of view, probably selfish I admit, Sainsburys will provide us with everything at a very good price, fish, meat, vegetables, grocery, bakery and even possibly, a chemist. Twentywell gives us Spar, utter complacency and indifferent staff, who spend their whole time smoking on the pavement, on top of that it is overpriced and stuck very firmly in the 1960s. I am sure that this comment is of no surprise to the concessionaire who owns it. The Butcher. A dinosaur, nothing organic, nothing free range, he can't bear all that. The Chemist. Closes on Saturday and at 3pm weekdays, no more to be said there then. The Greengrocer. This is a little gem, no pun intended, very good selection, excellent prices, really fresh and the kind of service that would please the CEO of John Lewis. There is a very good chance he will survive Sainsburys, the others WILL go. What will replace them? This is the good bit, Sainsburys will not provide a community spirit in any shape or form, it is highly unlikely that you will go in there to buy some carrots and the greengrocer suggests that he delivers your bag of compost. Sainsburys and other giant supermarkets like them harm communities in places like Bradway and make them feel isolated, because most other trade dies. Incidently, I am not related to the Greengrocer.
It's a Saisbury local, it will give you a similar offer to Spar or the co-op at Low Edges, no chemist and limited grocery range.
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12-03-2013, 23:12   #28
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No room for a sainsburys at bradway, no parking spaces not enough room for delivery vans there is nothing wrong with the spar if people who live in bradway would stop thinking that they are better than the people off the lowedges estate, they would find the staff friendly in the shop, but they are so far up their own arses that all you can see are their feet, they look down at every one else, at the end of the day you are no better than anyone else, so stop slagging staff off and support your local shops this includes the butchers and the fruit shop and coffee shop and card shop and keep hardworking people in their jobs.
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12-03-2013, 23:22   #29
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No room for a sainsburys at bradway, no parking spaces not enough room for delivery vans there is nothing wrong with the spar if people who live in bradway would stop thinking that they are better than the people off the lowedges estate, they would find the staff friendly in the shop, but they are so far up their own arses that all you can see are their feet, they look down at every one else, at the end of the day you are no better than anyone else, so stop slagging staff off and support your local shops this includes the butchers and the fruit shop and coffee shop and card shop and keep hardworking people in their jobs.
Look at the back of the Bradway Hotel site - plenty of parking once the site is redeveloped. The Spar staff are usually friendly, but if this is what they think of their customers I can understand why some may want to stay away!!
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13-03-2013, 09:04   #30
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If Bradway ends up with a Sainsbury's it will probably be the fault of Spar. I really hope the owner reads the comments on this forum. I have not read a single comment here referring to anyone living on Lowedges and the presumed social divides have absolutely nothing to do with acquiring a new Sainsbury's.
The sole purpose of any retailer, or any other type of business for that matter is to relieve us of as much money as possible, Spar fails spectacularly at this. Most people who live in Bradway hate it, they do not want to go into a shop where you have to wait for the staff to stop their conversation with each other to get served, they do not want to be served by surly aggressive people with huge chips on both shoulders, they do not want to buy boring overpriced products, they do not want to look at the staff fag butts on the pavement outside. If anyone thinks that the staff in this Spar are " hard working people " they are delusional.
The latest comments about the lack of parking at the pub are just ignorant rubbish and if the decision makers at Sainsbury's have half a brain they will throw in a chemist and a small post office concession just to sweeten the deal with any objectors and Sheffield City Council planners, who are probably wetting their knickers at the thought of getting this one through, although in the end it will have to go to a committee vote.
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13-03-2013, 09:33   #31
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Spar have an ATM, but it's not free, so not used as much as Tesco's Local on nearby Abbeydale Road South.

I suspect Sainsbury's would have a free ATM.
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18-03-2013, 16:28   #32
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Sainsburys have applied for an off licence for the Bradway site. Notice on lamp post outside and also in last Thursdays Sheffield Telegraph.
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18-03-2013, 16:52   #33
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Sainsburys have applied for an off licence for the Bradway site. Notice on lamp post outside and also in last Thursdays Sheffield Telegraph.
Interesting priorities as there's no indication they've applied for planning permission yet. That could be announced very soon! The building has been sold, subject to planning consent.
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18-03-2013, 19:31   #34
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If they keep the pub building looking the same it may be the case they do not need planning permission to change the use from pub to shop.
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18-03-2013, 20:09   #35
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If they keep the pub building looking the same it may be the case they do not need planning permission to change the use from pub to shop.
I have written to Sainsbury's on this point and their answer was;

"The proposals include replacing the existing building with a new, purpose built unit. The design team has explored the possibility of retaining the current building as part of the plans but unfortunately this cannot be incorporated due to design and layout requirements. Sainsbury's will make every effort to ensure the design of the new building is in keeping with the character of the local area."
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18-03-2013, 22:58   #36
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Wonder if they will go down the Tesco road of demolishing it first then asking the council for permission to build on unsightly empty land....

Anyway, so the pub and shop unit is to be demolished to make way for a purpose built convenience store and car parking by the look of it..

Anyway, what I would say if you don't want to lose the other shops and pubs, the simple answer is ensure you use them and spend money in them.
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18-03-2013, 23:42   #37
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Still all pie in the sky, no planning permission applied for yet
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I have written to Sainsbury's on this point and their answer was;

"The proposals include replacing the existing building with a new, purpose built unit. The design team has explored the possibility of retaining the current building as part of the plans but unfortunately this cannot be incorporated due to design and layout requirements. Sainsbury's will make every effort to ensure the design of the new building is in keeping with the character of the local area."
It would be nice if they landscaped it, a bit like the Marks and Spencer on Ecclesall Road.
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17-04-2013, 15:29   #39
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Yes, I know this is snobbish, BUT, perhaps we could have a really nice "Spoons" in Bradway to give the clientele the chance to fight and vomit on the pavement.
Typical of someone from Bradway, the reason I had to get away from the pretentious "wannabe snobs".
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18-04-2013, 09:22   #40
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"wannabe snobs". Where did you get the wannabe bit from, there is no wannabe about me. I assume you have moved away from Bradway to give yourself more opportunity to fight and vomit on the pavement, hopefully, you now live next to a really nice "Spoons".
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