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Old 22-06-2012, 20:53   #21
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I bet it's still a dodgy place. Going on a pub crawl in Belfast might be like stepping through a minefield. If there's a Union Jack Flag and a picture of the Queen behind the bar a few derogatory remarks about the Pope might be in order

If it's the Irish Republic flag then a rousing rendition of "Off to Dublin in the Green" might get you a drink on the house

It's always about religion and history with those people

A bit like the USA then.
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Old 22-06-2012, 20:54   #22
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Some truth in that statement. My grandfather was an Ulster catholic. You were bottom of the list if Harland and Wolf's ship building yard was hiring.

The Ulster prods always made it a habit to parade through the catholic neighbourhoods to commerorate the battle of the Boyne... rubbing their noses in it.
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They still have the battle of the Boyne parade every year,but i think they have to be kept away from the Catholic area though.
dunno if its the same thing but they still have the orange parades, that go through the catholic areas and theres normally trouble, theink they do it still just to spark things off
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Old 22-06-2012, 20:55   #23
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I've removed a large number of off topic posts. Please stick to the subject in the thread title.

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Old 22-06-2012, 20:58   #24
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That depends on how you move the boundaries.

The majority of Sheffielders want to ruled by Labour...doesn't make it so.
I''d speculate that only the province, and parts of Glasgow would only really care about the future. The rest of the UK and Ireland would welcome any lasting agreement between the two sides.
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Maybe if she gives him a whack on the back of the head while she's at it he might suddenly remember what he was doing on bloody Sunday.
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Old 22-06-2012, 21:02   #26
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My family in the South think they are all actually mental in the north and are quite content to leave them to it with devolution.

Besides, people in both ends of the country have realised they are better off financially when there is peace so want to keep it that way.
My cousin's in the South West,don't mention Northern Ireland to me,and they like the Queen.Maybe they are just being tactful in my company.
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Old 22-06-2012, 21:05   #27
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My cousin's in the South West,don't mention Northern Ireland to me,and they like the Queen.Maybe they are just being tactful in my company.
My in-laws are from the South West. They are rabid republicans but my mother in law LOVED the Queen. When Charles and Di got married they were on holiday in South Armagh and had to draw all the curtains and watch the wedding all hidden away. All the kids were told 'For God's sake lads, don't tell a soul what we've been watching'. Ha, ha. She was a rabid republican too and worked for Sinn Fein for a while. Loved the Queen though, mad.
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Old 22-06-2012, 21:08   #28
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A bit like the USA then.
Walking along Fifth Avenue, New York, all dressed in orange during the St. Patrick's Day Parade might get you a bit of unwelcome attention
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Old 22-06-2012, 21:13   #29
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Walking along Fifth Avenue, New York, all dressed in orange during the St. Patrick's Day Parade might get you a bit of unwelcome attention
Oh noes for any stray dutch football supporters!
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My old dad was a member of the British Legion for years after the war. On one occasion several old veterans of the German Africa Korps came over as guests. The old warriors drank beer together and reminisced about their days in the desert when only killing each other was what mattered.

like I said earlier "Yesterdays enemies... todays friends"
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Oh noes for any stray dutch football supporters!
Dutch-Americans like to wear those T-Shirts that say "You're not much if you're not Dutch"
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Old 22-06-2012, 21:34   #32
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Walking along Fifth Avenue, New York, all dressed in orange during the St. Patrick's Day Parade might get you a bit of unwelcome attention
I bet there are few Orange parade's going off in somewhere in the US in July,or are they only held in parts of Canada.

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My in-laws are from the South West. They are rabid republicans but my mother in law LOVED the Queen. When Charles and Di got married they were on holiday in South Armagh and had to draw all the curtains and watch the wedding all hidden away. All the kids were told 'For God's sake lads, don't tell a soul what we've been watching'. Ha, ha. She was a rabid republican too and worked for Sinn Fein for a while. Loved the Queen though, mad.
I've got Protestant,Catholic and and a bunch of atheists among my relatives,no wonder i'm a mass of contradictions!!
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Old 22-06-2012, 22:06   #33
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McGuinness and a Windsor shaking hands, murderer gets the Royal seal of approval. I feel all cosy inside.

Our prisons are full of men and women who have committed crimes that don't even scratch at the level of violence he was involved in..let's give them a handshake eh.

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Anyone seen the guard?

“There’s gay lads in the IRA?” .. “Sure look it was the only way we could successfully infiltrate the MI5!”
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I have wandered down the Falls Road and seen pictures of the 'divides', the huge concrete walls between catholic and protestant areas. I have been in a beautiful ornately carved pub that was destroyed and recreated to perfection seven times which is opposite the most bombed hotel in Europe.

This has to be better than what was but I wonder what 'negotiations' have gone on to drive this forward. I was reading the other day on the BBc web site about parents taking their children to be shot by appointment by the paramilitary thugs that still seem to rule in several areas.
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I have wandered down the Falls Road and seen pictures of the 'divides', the huge concrete walls between catholic and protestant areas. I have been in a beautiful ornately carved pub that was destroyed and recreated to perfection seven times which is opposite the most bombed hotel in Europe.

This has to be better than what was but I wonder what 'negotiations' have gone on to drive this forward. I was reading the other day on the BBc web site about parents taking their children to be shot by appointment by the paramilitary thugs that still seem to rule in several areas.
Perhaps its going to take a lot of time before fear and suspicion on either side cease to be a problem.
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I have wandered down the Falls Road and seen pictures of the 'divides', the huge concrete walls between catholic and protestant areas. I have been in a beautiful ornately carved pub that was destroyed and recreated to perfection seven times which is opposite the most bombed hotel in Europe.

This has to be better than what was but I wonder what 'negotiations' have gone on to drive this forward. I was reading the other day on the BBc web site about parents taking their children to be shot by appointment by the paramilitary thugs that still seem to rule in several areas.
It was speculated that this "handshake" was put in place is due to how badly Sinn Féin's reaction went down to the Queen's well received visit to Ireland.

She surprised many by addressing the Irish President in Irish. Also it was judged that many people took her offer of deep sympathy to everyone who has suffered in centuries of conflict between Britain and Ireland as a sincere gesture.
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Old 23-06-2012, 02:28   #39
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even in this country

as john lydons book was titled

No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs
I want to know when we are going to start sticking up for the dogs !
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I bet there are few Orange parade's going off in somewhere in the US in July,or are they only held in parts of Canada.


I've got Protestant,Catholic and and a bunch of atheists among my relatives,no wonder i'm a mass of contradictions!!
Bit like me. A grand uncle who was in the IRA and two uncles who joined the RAF and fought for England in WW2
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