On road parking charges coming to Abbeydale road

Its understood SCC are considering bringing in on road parking charges for a trial period along Abbeydale road and side roads (except resident permits) outside Millhouses park to ease congestion due to the minimal use of the parks pay and display carparks to avoid having to pay for parking, personally i think it makes a lot of sense as in the summer the road is chocka block.

Its understood SCC are considering bringing in on road parking charges for a trial period along Abbeydale road and side roads (except resident permits) outside Millhouses park to ease congestion due to the minimal use of the parks pay and display carparks to avoid having to pay for parking, personally i think it makes a lot of sense as in the summer the road is chocka block.

For many, it is not avoiding payment for a couple of hours, that is the reason for avoiding the car parks.

What is more off-putting is the risk of acquiring a disproportionate penalty charge for overstaying.

Its understood SCC are considering bringing in on road parking charges for a trial period along Abbeydale road and side roads (except resident permits) outside Millhouses park to ease congestion due to the minimal use of the parks pay and display carparks to avoid having to pay for parking, personally i think it makes a lot of sense as in the summer the road is chocka block.

Bet the residents' permits won't be free.

Yet another stealth tax from SCC

"But its done to ease congestion not to generate revenue" - well, use the funds from the parking to pay for the residents' permits - HAHAHAHAHA

That has been suggested for all the other parking scheme areas where the schems were brought in for the good of the locals and yet... Noting - despite making millions out of the schemes, they don't give 2 hoots fro the residents who pay their wages - just grab grab grab.

Its understood SCC are considering bringing in on road parking charges for a trial period along Abbeydale road and side roads (except resident permits) outside Millhouses park to ease congestion due to the minimal use of the parks pay and display carparks to avoid having to pay for parking, personally i think it makes a lot of sense as in the summer the road is chocka block.

are you councillor brian lodge ?

Mmmmmmm. On one hand charge people to park to use a park.

On the other hand, how much does obesity related illness cost the council?

So.... those that need to drive to a park, who refuse to pay to park, will simply not go.

I've got an idea! To alleviate congestion here, why not make the car park free?

Bet the residents' permits won't be free.

 

Yet another stealth tax from SCC

 

"But its done to ease congestion not to generate revenue" - well, use the funds from the parking to pay for the residents' permits - HAHAHAHAHA

 

That has been suggested for all the other parking scheme areas where the schems were brought in for the good of the locals and yet... Noting - despite making millions out of the schemes, they don't give 2 hoots fro the residents who pay their wages - just grab grab grab.

Residents parking schemes are funded from both the cost of permits and the fines collected. If the cost of permits went up to cover the full cost of the scheme, no one would ask for one. Likewise if parking services weren't so aggressive at catching people, the scheme would be under budget.

It's literally introducing a service that has to pay for half of itself by fining people that don't use the service. And people wonder why the signs are confusing? If the system had a 100% success rate and only residents parked in residents zones, it would run out of money and fail.

Its understood SCC are considering bringing in on road parking charges for a trial period along Abbeydale road and side roads (except resident permits) outside Millhouses park to ease congestion due to the minimal use of the parks pay and display carparks to avoid having to pay for parking, personally i think it makes a lot of sense as in the summer the road is chocka block.

Where have you picked up this information from?

The car park nearest to town is well used. People have always parked on the road around there. I have never seen parked vehicles there causing "congestion"

Its understood SCC are considering bringing in on road parking charges for a trial period along Abbeydale road and side roads (except resident permits) outside Millhouses park to ease congestion due to the minimal use of the parks pay and display carparks to avoid having to pay for parking, personally i think it makes a lot of sense as in the summer the road is chocka block.

well i think they should definatley bring it in for the road outside millhouses park in the summer its snided with people too tight to pay a £1 to park

Residents parking schemes are funded from both the cost of permits and the fines collected. If the cost of permits went up to cover the full cost of the scheme, no one would ask for one. Likewise if parking services weren't so aggressive at catching people, the scheme would be under budget.

 

It's literally introducing a service that has to pay for half of itself by fining people that don't use the service. And people wonder why the signs are confusing? If the system had a 100% success rate and only residents parked in residents zones, it would run out of money and fail.

Most of what you are saying is nonsense.

The installation of parking schemes is not funded from parking income. It is done from a capital grant.

The cost of the permits helps to pay the cost of enforcement, but comes nowhere near covering it. Parking services costs £4 million per annum to run. Enforcing permit zones takes over 30% of their resources. So, it costs over £1.3m per annum. Permits bring in £0.5m.

Parking services return a surplus because of pay and display income, plus income from penalties.

Parking services are not "aggressive" at issuing penalties. Have a look at where they rank in the league table of parking income. They are way below where you'd expect for a city of this size.

The signing used in parking schemes is prescribed by the government. SCC have to use it, same as every other council in this country. They have no choice in the matter. Every driver should understand the signs in common use. If they don't, it's their own fault.

Permit parking areas are not just for permit holders. There are pay and display bays in most of them for visitor use as the zones include shopping areas, hospitals, schools and visitor attractions.

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Mmmmmmm. On one hand charge people to park to use a park.

On the other hand, how much does obesity related illness cost the council?

 

So.... those that need to drive to a park, who refuse to pay to park, will simply not go.

 

I've got an idea! To alleviate congestion here, why not make the car park free?

The income from parks car parks goes towards the cost of running the parks. Would you like the parking to be free if that meant they couldn't maintain the park properly and maybe had to close it?

What congestion? Have you ever seen a traffic queue caused by those parked vehicles?

 

The income from parks car parks goes towards the cost of running the parks. Would you like the parking to be free if that meant they couldn't maintain the park properly and maybe had to close it?

It's a ridiculous funding model when local tackling obesity strategies are pushing 'exercise, exercise, exercise'. Parents driving their kids to parks, are the ones who are helping to keep obesity-related costs down.

It also tends to punish families from less affluent areas, where parents feel they have to drive to the 'nicer' parks.

 

 

What congestion? Have you ever seen a traffic queue caused by those parked vehicles?

It was a reference to the 'congestion' referred to in the OP.

The biggest problem is for people trying to use the footpath past there while the obnoxious parents unload their Range Rovers with Tarquin's and Jemima's pushchairs/bicycles. There is usually a mostly empty car park at this point.

are you councillor brian lodge ?

no thank goodness