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Do the bourgeoisie ( middle class) still have a party as such given that the proletariat hold power. The Liberal Democratics seem to have gone into the political exile Nick Clegg appears now again the new Liberal leader seems to go against public opinion not making themselves electable?

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Do the bourgeoisie ( middle class) still have a party as such given that the proletariat hold power. The Liberal Democratics seem to have gone into the political exile Nick Clegg appears now again the new Liberal leader seems to go against public opinion not making themselves electable?

The party of the so called middle class is now Labour.

This has happened since the Blair years due to the young professionals wanting to be seen waving banners and supporting lost causes.

They are to be seen outside the Town Hall whenever a minority are demonstrating about some situation that they have left behind for others to sort out.

Even though they like to mix with the working classes at these events they would not be seen dead joining them in the pub or indeed nominate one of that number to actually represent the( now dead) so called Labour Party.

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How can a conservative government be considered to be the proletariat in power?

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Do the bourgeoisie ( middle class) still have a party as such given that the proletariat hold power. The Liberal Democratics seem to have gone into the political exile Nick Clegg appears now again the new Liberal leader seems to go against public opinion not making themselves electable?

 

Can you clarify your sentence please? I don't think I am following your rambling thoughts on the LibDems and Nick Clegg. However, you seem to think Nick Clegg is LibDem leader again, he isn't, it is Tim Farron.

 

Besides that, why would the LibDem only appeal to the middle-class (your use of bourgeousie is pretty guiding to what your political leaning is)?

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Can you clarify your sentence please? I don't think I am following your rambling thoughts on the LibDems and Nick Clegg. However, you seem to think Nick Clegg is LibDem leader again, he isn't, it is Tim Farron.

 

Besides that, why would the LibDem only appeal to the middle-class (your use of bourgeousie is pretty guiding to what your political leaning is)?

 

I know Nick Clegg is not the leader of the Liberals and was replaced by Tim Farron who wants a second referendum ( I known that's your favourite subject) . The Liberals were once seen as a party for the middle class who felt more left in political learning's but would not vote for Labour. But given the way political game has been over the last few years Labour has become more bourgeois than working class so who do the Liberals repersent now? I'm I bourgeois in my political thinking I will keep you guessing for now.

 

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How can a conservative government be considered to be the proletariat in power?

 

Listen to Theresa May's first speech as she entered number ten though I think she's a Wolf in sheep's clothing after all does a Tory changes its spots from blue to red?, but we will see.

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She's absolutely a tory and the nasty party will continue to be the party of the rich, acting in favour of the rich and disadvantaging about 95% of the population.

That's not the proletariat in power.

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Do the bourgeoisie ( middle class) still have a party as such given that the proletariat hold power. The Liberal Democratics seem to have gone into the political exile Nick Clegg appears now again the new Liberal leader seems to go against public opinion not making themselves electable?

 

Short answer all those party's are bourgeoisie party's. Just that new Labour is more akin to the liberals. They don't even spout propaganda that they stand for the woking class anymore.. may be JC will change that.

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I know Nick Clegg is not the leader of the Liberals and was replaced by Tim Farron who wants a second referendum ( I known that's your favourite subject) . The Liberals were once seen as a party for the middle class who felt more left in political learning's but would not vote for Labour. But given the way political game has been over the last few years Labour has become more bourgeois than working class so who do the Liberals repersent now? I'm I bourgeois in my political thinking I will keep you guessing for now.

 

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Listen to Theresa May's first speech as she entered number ten though I think she's a Wolf in sheep's clothing after all does a Tory changes its spots from blue to red?, but we will see.

 

I don't want a second referendum, I am not sure why you think I do. I also think there is significant difference between Labour and the LibDems although of course it is hard to tell with the way Labour is evolving. But a Corbyn Labour is going to go hunt for the 'working class' vote, higher taxes, higher spending.

 

You are right though, LibDems need to find a unique angle, perhaps being 100% pro-Europe is that angle, but it will need a bit more.

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Do the bourgeoisie ( middle class) still have a party as such given that the proletariat hold power. The Liberal Democratics seem to have gone into the political exile Nick Clegg appears now again the new Liberal leader seems to go against public opinion not making themselves electable?

The LDP has never been a Centre party- it's way to the left of Labour MPs (but perhaps not of Mr Corbyn).

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The LDP has never been a Centre party- it's way to the left of Labour MPs (but perhaps not of Mr Corbyn).

 

Stupid comment. Stick to actual logic and facts . Not your biased opinion Jeffery

 

Labour have to realise that the blairite project failed. Theyll have to try to move to the Left or become obsolete

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The LDP has never been a Centre party- it's way to the left of Labour MPs (but perhaps not of Mr Corbyn).

 

The Liberals under Lloyd George did bring in National Insurance along with the State pension just before the Great War also unemployment provision and a disability payment came into been both the latter was the brain child of Winston Churchill who was a member of the party at the time. But the core politics of Libreals is middle class and the new moneyed who copied the landed classes but wanted to be seen as helping lower classes hence the above policies. Fast forward to Gordon Brown the son of a Vicar he wanted all working class to be middle class on the face of it looked an odd idea but not if you want the traditional Liberal voter to vote Labour hence the spin. Now the Liberals are a sort of party looking for a new direction and have jumped on the EU bandwagon and want to be seen as pro EU. Corbyn has shown he more of a socialist and going against the the Blairist and Brownist ideology politics goes in swings and roundabouts.

 

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Stupid comment. Stick to actual logic and facts . Not your biased opinion Jeffery

 

Labour have to realise that the blairite project failed. Theyll have to try to move to the Left or become obsolete

 

Indeed the Blairite project failed along with ' New Labour' and of course the Iraq war .Perhaps Jeffrey is bourgeois in his views.

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I think the bourgeoisie have had numerous political parties vying for their votes in the recent past.

What I have noticed since the outcome of the referendum on EU membership, is many journalists speak about the working classes and their lack of representation: that many people, the working classes especially, voted to leave as a way of sticking two fingers up to the elite who have ignored them and their interests for far too long.

I think perhaps that might be one explanation.

The question is if the bourgeoisie don't have political representation in Westminster, those beneath them certainly don't; then who do the political parties speak for?

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